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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #60 on: October 22, 2009, 09:14:04 PM »
I'm sorry I'm harping on this, if you guys disagree let me know.  I'm just trying to explain my view, given I'm probably doing a Crapty job, so we can agree on the best way.  I just want the league to be as accurate as possible, however I understand if you guys see things differently.  I've been in both roto, head to head and points leagues... My strong preference is head to head, points leagues.   I've been in a couple very competitive league for 5-6 years now and dropped the others. 

No need to apologize, we wouldn't need a RC if everyone agreed all of the time.  I think we should be able to find a solution that satisfies everyone's concerns.  Maybe our next step should be to compile a list of those so we're all brainstorming with the same goals in mind.  I'll try provide a highlight of mine later tonight.

I'll re-iterate what I said earlier though, I think a long-term agreement for the scoring categories needs to be confirmed before free agency, as the value for players may vary widely (I personally put together value estimations based on scoring categories, and with 30 teams I'm sure other GM's do also).
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #61 on: October 23, 2009, 08:54:32 AM »
I emailed Fantrax about my pro-rating idea, and they said they would consider the enhancement.  BTW, Ben, what M.J. is proposing is a H2H points based league, not categories.  As in fantasy football, you can earn points from your QB, WR, RB, TE, K, and DEF/IDP.  All of the points are weighted accordingly, so that certain statistics matter more than the other. With the James' ratios, we can do just that with what M.J. outlined.

I also think it is important to add in some "zero" weighted stats for display purposes only.

AVG, OBP, SLUG
K/BB, ERA, WHIP

We could also consider other countable stats such as R, RBI, HR, SB, W, SV, HLD, K.
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« Reply #62 on: October 23, 2009, 09:03:12 AM »
I enjoy a basic 6 X 6 league and add in FLD % as well.

R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OBP

FLD %

W SV, K/BB, ERA, WHIP, HLD

I really like leagues with OBP and HLD you can easily find surprise sources of these stats, therefore evening the playing ground for Smaller Market teams.
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« Reply #63 on: October 23, 2009, 10:06:47 AM »
I enjoy a basic 6 X 6 league and add in FLD % as well.

R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OBP

FLD %

W SV, K/BB, ERA, WHIP, HLD

I really like leagues with OBP and HLD you can easily find surprise sources of these stats, therefore evening the playing ground for Smaller Market teams.

You are not going to find those stats in this league.  We may include them for reference only as I mentioned above with zero-weighted stats.  We're looking for pure individual contributions to a team's run production / run prevention.
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« Reply #64 on: October 23, 2009, 10:45:04 AM »
You are not going to find those stats in this league.  We may include them for reference only as I mentioned above with zero-weighted stats.  We're looking for pure individual contributions to a team's run production / run prevention.

I can live with that.  I was answering the question using what I am used to.  I will adapt. 
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« Reply #65 on: October 23, 2009, 12:02:54 PM »
I'm on board with the reference statistics for sure... Other considerations for pitching scoring statistics could be ground balls, quality starts and innings pitched... Typically, with all other variables held constant (most importantly walks), ground ball and strike out pitchers perform best.
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« Reply #66 on: October 23, 2009, 12:11:31 PM »
I'm on board with the reference statistics for sure... Other considerations for pitching scoring statistics could be ground balls, quality starts and innings pitched... Typically, with all other variables held constant (most importantly walks), ground ball and strike out pitchers perform best.

Something like...

GB+K-BB-HBP

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« Reply #67 on: October 23, 2009, 12:23:57 PM »
Yes, roughly.  Values should be assigned to each so that pitching is roughly, on average 36-37% of a teams performance.  Should I try to draft point values?  Should we include quality starts and ground balls?  Are there any other statistics, not mentioned in the formulas I listed that should be added?
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« Reply #68 on: October 23, 2009, 12:26:19 PM »
Yes, roughly.  Values should be assigned to each so that pitching is roughly, on average 36-37% of a teams performance.  Should I try to draft point values?  Should we include quality starts and ground balls?  Are there any other statistics, not mentioned in the formulas I listed that should be added?

How about we come up with our metric for QS that is not based on ER?
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« Reply #69 on: October 23, 2009, 12:29:23 PM »
Yes, roughly.  Values should be assigned to each so that pitching is roughly, on average 36-37% of a teams performance.  Should I try to draft point values for discussion?  Should I include quality starts and ground balls?  Are there any other statistics, not mentioned in the formulas I listed that should be added?
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