Edmonton - Montreal

[winter]

Edmonton receives -Tomas Plekanec, Alex Auld, 1st. Rd. #9

Montreal receives - Ales Hemsky, Nikolai Khabibulin, 3rd Rd. #1

Was looking for another 1st. rd. pick and needed some help @ center. Hate losing Hemsky, I like him, and Khabibulin will get Montreal some starts/points.

Pleasure trading with Montreal/Whomp 

[Whomp]

I confirm. 

[izaman3]

 

[BeanTown]

This one is a little boarderline for me, i dunno! Hemsky and Plecks are pretty comparible and Auld and Khabi are pretty close in back-up roles for OTT and EDM respectivley, but the 9th overall pick is gonna be a bigtime top line player seems like its a little far in EDM favor. I dunno just my opinion. Not a terrible trade by any means but when u think of the 9th pick as a Shane Doan type player it seems a hefty price for Hemsky and Khabi and a 3rd rder

[Rob]

This is way lopsided.  I'd take Khabi over Auld but not by much and I might take Plekanec over Hemsky with his injury problems.  I know you guys have positional needs and that's always a consideration but bottom line the Habs could get a crapload more for that 1st round pick.  On top of that if my math is right the Habs are taking on more payroll here. 

[Whomp]

If you look at long term it is good for getting rid of a long term contract for a short term rise in costs.
Everyone judges talent differently, I do not want to be married to Plekanec.

Please re-evaluate.

[BeanTown]

I think if a 2nd rounder was going to EDM it would be a better deal IMO, the first rounder, at 9, is goingt o give you an absolute bonafide superstar.

I couldnt imagin the trade as something like:

Doan, Plecks,Auld

for

Hemsky, Khabi and maybe a line role player

sorry to use Doan but thats just where I see a 9th overall type of player, somewhere mid 300 FP's per season.

I completely understand the contract issue, but at the same time  its still too much of an overpayment in my eyes

[winter]

Has anybody taken a look at fantrax to see whats available at each position, how much deeper can a draft pool get.  For the record, Doan, in Dynasty Fantrax is listed w/256 fantasy points not mid 300's. Outside of 2 goalies, there is not a single person above 300. Auld had 64/pts. and is only projected for 10-15 gms this year, he would be taking nothing but space on my roster. Khabibulin had 148/pts, and will get more starts.  Also, outside of the availability of this draft pool, I'd hardly consider Doan a 9th overall pick in any league. IMO.  All respects bean 

[Rob]

Has anybody taken a look at fantrax to see whats available at each position, how much deeper can a draft pool get.  For the record, Doan, in Dynasty Fantrax is listed w/256 fantasy points not mid 300's. Outside of 2 goalies, there is not a single person above 300. Auld had 64/pts. and is only projected for 10-15 gms this year, he would be taking nothing but space on my roster. Khabibulin had 148/pts, and will get more starts.  Also, outside of the availability of this draft pool, I'd hardly consider Doan a 9th overall pick in any league. IMO.  All respects bean 

I agree that Doan isn't a 300 point player.  Realistically the 9th pick should either be a very good goalie or a good scoring skater worth somewhere around 200-250 points a year.  At pick 41 the goalie selection will be very scarce and for skaters you're starting to look at sleepers and 3rd line forwards.  I would venture a guess that the difference in production should be somewhere around 100 points between these two picks.  I don't see that Montreal is getting that much value back.  That's just my opinion.  I know positional needs are important right now especially with the vague position eligibility rules. 

I haven't vetoed yet, I'd like to see what the rest of the TC thinks. 

[BeanTown]

I see what ur saying and I was just throwing Doans name out there. Yes this draft is VERY deep. Every position has stars available and is why I figured the 9th was a high compensation, I mean i dont know how the other guys are drafting, but I have 2 picks before the 9th pick and when I look at who other may take and who i may take the players left at spot 9 will be incredible players which I think will put this trade lop-sided. That's why i think a 2nd rounder would be more fair compensation in this specific trade.

Yes Auld wont get much in OTT but he will get more in OTT then he did in MTL I think, and Khabi will get some, yes, but less than last year I think as they will try to ride Dybnyk IMO. I dunno I think think it's a little one sided because of that pick, just one man's opinion lol, everyone else in the TC might see fair!

Also, just FYI I was just pullin numbers out of my bunm or Doan's 300+ fp's lol, shot in the dark haha.

No Harm Winter, always good to hear the other sides opinion!!