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Stars and Blues
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:09:44 PM »
Mikko Koivu, $3.4m (2015-16)
Christian Dvorak, N/C (0 games)
:DAL-NHL: Round 1

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Erik Johnson, $4.2m (2017-18)

Dallas got a better return for Suter, a defenceman on similar caliber, but this deal meets my needs as it addresses both my cap constraints and the addition of future depth. Koivu is purely a rental.

Thanks again Martin!
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Re: Stars and Blues
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2016, 10:12:06 PM »
:DAL-NHL: confirms  :thumbsup:

Since I had no intention to re-sign Koivu next year E . Johnson is a nice return for our team ... fits our plan  :bump: .

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Re: Stars and Blues
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2016, 05:58:11 PM »
With Dallas' pick being middle of the road, I think Slack wins here, but...

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Re: Stars and Blues
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2016, 03:01:14 AM »
I'm not vetoing this trade but it seems like to me that Mikko Koivu is being shown as having no trade value. We had a similar issue before. Teams getting premium returns and a serviceable player in return because they are not going to resign them. This is why players with expiring contracts cannot be traded during the 2nd extension period.

I respect both GMs a lot and don't want to ever tell or suggest how anybody should run their team. I understand why both GMs want to this but is it fair to both and the rest of the league? Not trying to swing the vote but would like to know what others are thinking? 

Hope this makes some sense as I have had a couple of drinks.  :koolaid:
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Re: Stars and Blues
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2016, 12:45:16 PM »
Consider the recent trade history Tony. Not long ago I sent Voracek, Binnington, and Dvorak to Dallas for Ryan Suter.

Last season (up until his injury) EJ was the 12th ranked defencman....definitely comparable to, if not better than Suter. So setting those two players aside Martin has picked up Voracek and Binnigton for Koivu and a 1st. It's a fair exchange by any standard but also clear that I have not received the better end of the deal.

Koivu has value....but not nearly as much as Voracek.
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Re: Stars and Blues
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2016, 12:53:37 AM »
I respect both GMs a lot and don't want to ever tell or suggest how anybody should run their team. I understand why both GMs want to this but is it fair to both and the rest of the league? Not trying to swing the vote but would like to know what others are thinking? 

Hope this makes some sense as I have had a couple of drinks.  :koolaid:

I don't see how this is not fair to the league. SlackJack is trying to create cap space for next season/this season's resignings while Dallas obtains a young top pairing defenseman (something not easy to acquire) in exchange for future depth.

Koivu is being shown he has no real trade value because of his current cap hit compared to his average point production. After this season, if he is resigned, it will be a much more realistic number.

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I don't see anything wrong with the deal.
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Re: Stars and Blues
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2016, 09:07:41 PM »
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Re: Stars and Blues
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2016, 03:23:05 PM »
I don't see how this is not fair to the league. SlackJack is trying to create cap space for next season/this season's resignings while Dallas obtains a young top pairing defenseman (something not easy to acquire) in exchange for future depth.

Koivu is being shown he has no real trade value because of his current cap hit compared to his average point production. After this season, if he is resigned, it will be a much more realistic number.

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I don't see anything wrong with the deal.

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