Free Agency - 2 way contracts

[favo_zomg]

Could just be simpler to keep the two way deals to rookies (40 games and under), and make it cost something if we pick them up on free agency. If we really want the player to stick around, don't risk putting them in the minors.

I'm game for either, but this could just be the easiest to grasp situation (as we add no extra rules).

[Jesse]

I am in for keeping it simple what about something like this

A 2 way contract could be signed to anyone who has not played 40 or more games for an extra 500k per year

Makes things simple and I really don't think it makes draft picks less valuable
I think we should be able to resign players to 2 way contracts too as long as they haven't played 40 games

[Miku]

 

[Drew]

Trying to post multiple responses in one post:

1) First off drafts will always be valuable as the new kids coming in will first come first serve only at the draft. With 3 rounds we will have a total of 18x3= 54 new players, which should be the higher end talent of players with 0 NHL game experience.

2) These players would have to be within the 2 way contract confines, that being 0-39 games of NHL experience.

3) I do not like the idea of adding a million onto the winning bid as then they wouldn't becoming of any value, they would remain in the minors because first they can easily be put there and brought up freely and second because it would be 2 expensive to have a 1.2m rookie in the line-up when you could just sign them or an experienced player to 200k contract instead and use them on your team. Instead of the million proposed they should have to be signed to the value of their actual contract maybe (not the regular half their contract) or I would be more willing to do 500k as 1m is just too much on most players and unrealistic.

4) There has to be extensions on 2 way deals and it maintains prospects like goalies that may not develop for 3-4-5-6 years. Also there will be no 2 way contracts on players 40 games and over played. I would sign every player to a 2 way deal and never have to worry about cap again because I would just send up and down freely. I call up and send down players daily based on who I would like to play on a certain night and I wouldn't even bother drafting players because they don't reach their full potential until 24-29 years of age.

5) There will be no 2 way contracts on players 40 games and over playedIf they are only relief players you sign them to 1 year contract so that they don't affect your team for years to come. And a 1 year 1 way contract will be cheaper that a 2 way 1 year contract anyway according the rules we are discussing right now.

6) You can not re-sign 1 way contracts to make them 2 way contracts until such a time that they are eligible for extensions. If a player is signed to a 1 way contract till 2012-13 (like Bradyen Schenn) they can't not be re-signed until the 2013 extension period. If he hasn't played over 40 games by that time he will be eligible for a 2 way contract through his extension.

Proposed Rule:
Two way free agent contract:
A free agent skater can be signed to a 2 way contract if the have played 0-39 games or a free agent goalie can be signed to a 2 way contract if they have played 0-29 games. The cost of their contract must equal the real-life contract plus an addition 500k as a two way contract fee. These players can still be signed as normal but their contract will be a 1 way contract.

[favo_zomg]

 

I like this... Simple, elegant, and gets to the point.

Sorry for creating a mess in the forum, but at least we explored all potential avenues.

[Drew]

I like this... Simple, elegant, and gets to the point.

Sorry for creating a mess in the forum, but at least we explored all potential avenues.

Discussion is never a bad thing. Thanks

[Miku]

Proposed Rule:
Two way free agent contract:
A free agent skater can be signed to a 2 way contract if the have played 0-39 games or a free agent goalie can be signed to a 2 way contract if they have played 0-29 games. The cost of their contract must equal the real-life contract plus an addition 500k as a two way contract fee. These players can still be signed as normal but their contract will be a 1 way contract.

You want it to be the cost of their contract, not half, the actual cost, plus 500k, but 1 mil is too much which I think is weird because it's not always cheaper,

Some players like for example John Doe was a higher draft pick and makes 2m a season,
If we do some math:
Half of the contract + 1 mil = 2m
Equal to the contract + 500k = 2.5m
So I don't see how half + 1 mil would be too expensive but most FA's under 40 games would probably be more in the 200k-1m range
Half of the contract of 1m + 1m = 1.5m
Equal to + 500k = 1.5m
Still not cheaper.
Half of the contract of 200k + 1m = 1.2m
Equal to + 500k = 700k
So the way you want to do it will make cheaper players even cheaper and more expensive players even more expensive which isn't something I would hate, just pointing it out.

This isn't counting players like Taylor Hall, last years 1st pick who makes 3.8m
Half + 1m = 2.9m
Equal to + 500k = 4.3m

So it will make expensive players even more expensive but all players under 1m will be cheaper with the Equal to + 500k.

Just doing the math, I like math, and I like pointing it out for those who want to see the exact numbers.

I for one am up for either, the way you have it expensive players are more expensive and cheaper players are cheaper. If we go half + 1mil, it stays with the half contracts system people are already used to with FA but doesn't scale well making cheap players more expensive and more expensive players not that much more expensive.

[Jesse]

I would prefer half of their contract plus 500k that why we are keeping it as simple as possible

[Drew]

I would prefer half of their contract plus 500k that why we are keeping it as simple as possible

Yes sorry let's do half + 500k

[Miku]

Sounds good, 500k sound fine also, a little cheap for my liking but thats probably because I have 15mil cap space to fill up haha.