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Re: Free Agency - 2 way contracts
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2011, 04:25:42 PM »
I don't like the million per year because lets say someone like Mikael Granlund who makes 2 million based on draft position would then be a 3 million dollar guy and I wouldn't want to pay that I wouldn't mind paying 2.5 million though. I think we are forgetting that to sign a player who hasn't played in the NHL needs to be signed based on draft position which is a couple million dollars already 
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Re: Free Agency - 2 way contracts
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2011, 04:28:42 PM »
Another idea:

Players who played under 40 games (30 in the case of a goalie) only cost 500k more a year for a two way deal.

Players who played over 40 games (30 in the case of a goalie) cost 1M more a year for a two way deal.

No two way deals on extensions.
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2011, 04:29:52 PM »
True but players who are making 2 mil already that have played under 39 games are probably pretty good future prospects that paying a million extra shouldn't seem like too much of a burden. Plus you're not supposed to want to pay them 3 mil, that's why you would have to draft well so that you wouldn't have to pay the extra 1 mil on guys like that. Most players who have played under 39 games are probably going to be worth 0.5m-1m, so 2m for a player who can come up or down to fill your teams needs for 2 years and is probably a future prospect isn't even really that bad of a deal. Especially since if you drafted him you would have him for 2 years, 2 ways for 1m.
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Re: Free Agency - 2 way contracts
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2011, 04:32:18 PM »
True but players who are making 2 mil already that have played under 39 games are probably pretty good future prospects that paying a million extra shouldn't seem like too much of a burden. Plus you're not supposed to want to pay them 3 mil, that's why you would have to draft well so that you wouldn't have to pay the extra 1 mil on guys like that. Most players who have played under 39 games are probably going to be worth 0.5m-1m, so 2m for a player who can come up or down to fill your teams needs for 2 years and is probably a future prospect isn't even really that bad of a deal. Especially since if you drafted him you would have him for 2 years, 2 ways for 1m.

I honestly could not have stated that better myself, although I would have no problem with making it cheaper for younger players either. We just need to make two way deals cost something so draft picks still hold their value.
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Re: Free Agency - 2 way contracts
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2011, 04:32:57 PM »
Another idea:

Players who played under 40 games (30 in the case of a goalie) only cost 500k more a year for a two way deal.

Players who played over 40 games (30 in the case of a goalie) cost 1M more a year for a two way deal.

No two way deals on extensions.

If we get into this though what's going to stop people from signing players like Iginla on a two-way contract, if your paying 6-7 mil already whats an extra mil right? I think two-way contracts would have to be players under 40 games, and again these are players who we are signing two-way contracts to fill holes in our roster during injuries etc, who we can always re-sign to 1 way deals without paying the extra 1 mil if we plan to keep them in our main rosters.
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Re: Free Agency - 2 way contracts
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2011, 04:35:46 PM »
True but players who are making 2 mil already that have played under 39 games are probably pretty good future prospects that paying a million extra shouldn't seem like too much of a burden. Plus you're not supposed to want to pay them 3 mil, that's why you would have to draft well so that you wouldn't have to pay the extra 1 mil on guys like that. Most players who have played under 39 games are probably going to be worth 0.5m-1m, so 2m for a player who can come up or down to fill your teams needs for 2 years and is probably a future prospect isn't even really that bad of a deal. Especially since if you drafted him you would have him for 2 years, 2 ways for 1m.
You won't have them at 2 way for 1 million over 2 years it would be based off their draft position and could be just about 4 million like Taylor Hall
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Re: Free Agency - 2 way contracts
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2011, 04:37:03 PM »
I don't think we should be allowed to sign players to 2 way contracts after they reach their game limit we already set (40 for players 30 for goalies)
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Re: Free Agency - 2 way contracts
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2011, 04:38:04 PM »
If we get into this though what's going to stop people from signing players like Iginla on a two-way contract, if your paying 6-7 mil already whats an extra mil right? I think two-way contracts would have to be players under 40 games, and again these are players who we are signing two-way contracts to fill holes in our roster during injuries etc, who we can always re-sign to 1 way deals without paying the extra 1 mil if we plan to keep them in our main rosters.

What if we put a cap on the two way deals... Anyone worth more than 3M a year (before the two way deal stuff) cannot be signed to a two way deal. This way, players like Big Buff (who will be going to free agency this summer) cannot get a two way deal, but the option is still out there for filler players (like Marty Reasoner is to me... who conveniently just got injured)
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Re: Free Agency - 2 way contracts
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2011, 04:38:20 PM »
You won't have them at 2 way for 1 million over 2 years it would be based off their draft position and could be just about 4 million like Taylor Hall

4 million for a 2 way player like Taylor Hall would be amazing ._.

Also if you drafted Taylor Hall it would cost you 4 million for two way contract,
if you signed Taylor Hall to a 2 way deal through FA it would only cost you 5 mil,
if you signed Taylor Hall to a 1 way deal through FA it would only cost you 4 mil.

So the extra one mil isn't really that bad it's just a incentive to draft well.
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Re: Free Agency - 2 way contracts
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2011, 04:42:44 PM »
What if we put a cap on the two way deals... Anyone worth more than 3M a year (before the two way deal stuff) cannot be signed to a two way deal. This way, players like Big Buff (who will be going to free agency this summer) cannot get a two way deal, but the option is still out there for filler players (like Marty Reasoner is to me... who conveniently just got injured)

This could work, but there are also lots of players out there with 20-30 games under their belt in the FA right now who could be signed easily to a 2 way deal. I just signed Erik Condra for 0.2m, if I could have I would have signed him for 1.2m two way since he is under 40 games, but there are options out there. I was also looking at Viktor Stalberg who's under 40 games and I'm sure there are more. This will also put a good incentive to draft well as there wont be a great two-way deal market out there in FA because teams will have signed them. Also what if teams plan to sign a guy in FA and get into a bidding war and the next thing you know the player will cost more then 3m, then your stuck with a player who you don't want because you only wanted him for the two-way deal.
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