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Re: Suggestions to help this league run better
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2011, 05:52:13 PM »
Wow love the shots taken at me when all I do is help out anyone that pays any attention to the scoring would know that goalies are extremely valuable in this league. The moves I did brought in the best prospect out of both the NYI and Phoenix organizations to make the Panthers a powerhouse in a couple years.  Dipietro could easily be the steal of this league if he gets healthy he automatically has a starting job and will play. Starting goalie in this league = CUP
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Re: Suggestions to help this league run better
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2011, 05:55:21 PM »
here's ur follow-up ... since your talking + asking...

FN, i see ur point - i did asked hockeyfreak6000, gilly + Jesse for some insight.
I heard it and given it's subjective, i'll diagree.

1st: building for the future... we're talking fantasy play - so waiting out 1-2yrs to rebuild "through the draft" is painful - if this were a paying gig, fine, but it aint. kills the point of fantasy if the fun-factor is closer to 0 than 10 because your team isn't as competitive.

2nd: no draft picks came back... they were traded away (see be-lo)

3rd: everyone's smart in their own way, but since the plan was only partially executed, it did leave a team somewhat crippled... anyone looking at the cat's roster cringles - especially relative to any team that finished even below the Panthers 11 thru 27...

Florida Panthers    New York Islanders    Booth, David LW - FLA, $4.3m (2014-2015) ... 147pts
Florida Panthers    New York Islanders    Wideman, Dennis D - WAS, $3.9m (2011-2012) ... 101pts
Florida Panthers    New York Islanders    Weiss, Stephen C - FLA, $3.1m (2012-2013) ... 116pts
Florida Panthers    New York Islanders    Dadonov, Evgeny RW - FLA, $0.9m (2011-2012) - rated 7.0 on prospects site
Florida Panthers    New York Islanders    Robak, Colby D - FLA, N/C, (0 Games) - rated 7.0 on prospects site
Florida Panthers    New York Islanders    2011 - 3rd Round Draft Pick

New York Islanders    Florida Panthers    DiPietro, Rick G - NYI, , $4.5m (2017-2018) ... 111pts (50th ranked)
New York Islanders    Florida Panthers    Gervais, Bruno D - TB, $4.1m (2012-2013) ... 19pt + 47pts last 2 yrs
New York Islanders    Florida Panthers    Niederreiter, Nino RW - NYI - rated 7.5 on prospect site
New York Islanders    Florida Panthers    de Haan, Calvin D - NYI - rated 7.5 on prospect site

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Re: Suggestions to help this league run better
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2011, 06:00:53 PM »
jesse, it aint personal right. just so we're on the same pg.

the point of my original post is RE: balance, competition + parity.
If you want to build a competitive league, pause activities if you're missing a bunch of managers.

i understand we'd like to mimic the mother league, but given it's virtual world here and the commish here is all powerful and can pause activities while new managers are found, why not.
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Re: Suggestions to help this league run better
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2011, 06:03:46 PM »
i like it the way it is as it keeps me intrested cause i have a reason to come in here in the offseason. if u pause activity u kill that spirit in my opinion. again not trying to be an A-Hole
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Re: Suggestions to help this league run better
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2011, 06:42:27 PM »
... again not trying to be an A-Hole
I dont think that of u buddy... like i said, it's a suggestion with a discussion.

perhaps what helps make my pt is if one of the commish's or a vet league member could confirm how many franchise nhl teams were missing full-time mgrs July1st.

if more than 10-15% of your teams were AWOL July 1st, competition for FA talent is low - that's a key activity for teams to add immediate point producers.

and the double whammy here is, the un-manned teams (looked like 30%) also lost their pending Free agents 'cuz they werent extended/resigned (Thornton, Parise, Heatley, Bryz-y, Vokoun, etc.).

1. strong/manned teams got stronger July 1st
2. weak / un-manned teams got weaker June 25th... lost pending FA's
3. weak teams got nailed again July 1st - unable to compete for FA's

Core Issue: so you end up with a polarized league, and ppl bail because competition is skewed badly by Yr3. it's already noticably skewed in Yr2 wouldnt u say?

Look at Panthers lineup VS Wild/Pens/Bruins... lol

« Last Edit: July 23, 2011, 06:44:09 PM by PigsRule »
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Re: Suggestions to help this league run better
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2011, 01:53:48 AM »
I dont think that of u buddy... like i said, it's a suggestion with a discussion.

perhaps what helps make my pt is if one of the commish's or a vet league member could confirm how many franchise nhl teams were missing full-time mgrs July1st.

if more than 10-15% of your teams were AWOL July 1st, competition for FA talent is low - that's a key activity for teams to add immediate point producers.

and the double whammy here is, the un-manned teams (looked like 30%) also lost their pending Free agents 'cuz they werent extended/resigned (Thornton, Parise, Heatley, Bryz-y, Vokoun, etc.).

1. strong/manned teams got stronger July 1st
2. weak / un-manned teams got weaker June 25th... lost pending FA's
3. weak teams got nailed again July 1st - unable to compete for FA's

Core Issue: so you end up with a polarized league, and ppl bail because competition is skewed badly by Yr3. it's already noticably skewed in Yr2 wouldnt u say?

Look at Panthers lineup VS Wild/Pens/Bruins... lol

How many free agents did I sign?  1, maybe 2?  Trades pal!

It's a fantasy league man, if youre quitting because you're not good right now you're a weak owner.  Good!
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Re: Suggestions to help this league run better
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2011, 02:33:30 AM »
Before I respond to the suggestion given, we love all the ideas, myself and Hockeyfreak6000 talk about each, and just to answer this one, there is not a chance I or we will stop/pause the league when a GM quits or is asked to leave the league.

When I post teams available the person or person's signing up are to check out the teams roster and see weather they want to continue and if that team works for them. 

This league was going through a rebuild stage and some teams had a set back, in this case a well respected and well sought after hockey GM was hired to help build the team for the future which many do as there not here for 1 season but in this for the long haul.   All trades were approved, all moves were to help the team, everything was great. 

So to close this, Ive responded to the suggestion which I appreciate the idea (thanks very much :thumbsup:) and I no longer want any more bad mouthing other Gm's over past moves.  This is the only warning I will give to anyone, we can discuss but the wording needs to be careful as it can be taken the wrong way and we are not running a trash each other league.

Thank you,

Mike
« Last Edit: July 24, 2011, 02:37:08 AM by Gilly »
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Re: Suggestions to help this league run better
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2011, 09:22:15 AM »
boys, don't take it so personally. this is a suggestion box afterall.

thx for the insight. :toast:
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Re: Suggestions to help this league run better
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2011, 04:41:51 PM »
suggestion:

* allow teams to post their Trading Block on their respective team pages.

Pros
convenience - potential trade partners need to access the team page anyway + the mgr can update with modifications + there is a link to the mgr's PM from their TB post.
clean up the trade discussion page, reserve it for

Cons
possible duplication of info from other pages...

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Re: Suggestions to help this league run better
« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2011, 04:44:30 PM »
suggestion:

* allow teams to post their Trading Block on their respective team pages.

Pros
convenience - potential trade partners need to access the team page anyway + the mgr can update with modifications + there is a link to the mgr's PM from their TB post.
clean up the trade discussion page, reserve it for

Cons
possible duplication of info from other pages...
Another Con is that it makes it more difficult for the Commissioner here is what I am doing in my league and its sort of the same idea

http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=20450.0
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