POLL: Let's vote on how we want to adjust pitching scoring.

[h4cheng]

What stats are available for baseball? If GB is not available, then we have to adjust our current scoring system.

[Dan Wood]

Why don't we just do outs? Make K's more valuable, BBs and HRs more detrimental

[Colby]

What stats are available for baseball? If GB is not available, then we have to adjust our current scoring system.

Pretty much everything Fantrax has except for GB/FB.  We could base the system around the following.

IP, BB, K, 2B, 3B, HR

Pitchers who have good K/BB ratios, don't allow the long ball, and generally hold off XBH should do well for any style of pitcher.

Re: Dan - IP = Outs

[Dan Wood]

understood I just hate having IP as a category. If we increase K value and increase the harm that HR and BB do, then RPs will have value. In a system with IP as a plus, and no saves or hlds, and a really high IP cap, RPs have little to no value. I think that is something we should consider going forward.

[Daniel]

How about including ER somewhere instead of increasing further the value of HRs? We already have a big scoring glitch when we can have these two lines score the same amount of points:

7IP 12H 2BB 7K 8ER 2HR
7IP 3H   2BB 7K 2ER 2HR

First line is horrible, second one is good enough. I read something about the possibility of including QS as a stat, but that some believe 3R in 6IP is mediocre (I agree). Is there any way to invent a new QS in which a pitcher would have to post minimum a 7IP 3ER or 6IP 2ER instead of the regular QS? Just throwing ideas out there.

[MOLI643]

I don't agree with any type of limits, but if it is a needed thing, Why don't we just lower the number of SP starters.

[Colby]

I don't agree with any type of limits, but if it is a needed thing, Why don't we just lower the number of SP starters.

That would not change anything.  Ideally, we would have one starting SP per day, but alas this is a fantasy league and we can't control the actual starts.  A starts limit was in discussion for a while, but most were opposed to that and favored an IP limit.

[MOLI643]

I just dont like limits, I don't know if everybody have enough starters to have this really do any thing in this league. this will affect only a minority here.  but I will favor them if every body agrees to them.   

[papps]

Something needs to be done to fix this.  I don't know how a team can roll out 9 SP's in a week.  I think when we voted we didn't know how it would effect the league.  With this many teams its hard for some to compete with payrolls and not enough decent pitchers to go around.  I think 70 innings a week is more than enough.

[Colby]

No way to really invent a new QS as it is a conditional stat rather than a countable combination.  The following two lines...

7IP 12H 2BB 7K 8ER 2HR
7IP 3H   2BB 7K 2ER 2HR


May be separated by the introduction of XBH.  There is certainly the potential for the one pitcher to allow 10 singles.  We could always negate points for singles, but at a much lower rate than XBH and HR.