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Re: Resign question
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2012, 07:36:10 PM »
Rob/Dan,

I am sorry, I do not know where Colby got that idea.  Perhaps, he was thinking about prospect extensions.  We use the written rules in cases like this.  The re-sign deadlines are treated as strictly as the trade deadline.

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Re: Resign question
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2012, 08:24:01 PM »
Roy,

I'm not trying to undermine you. I honestly thought it was at the end of the MLB season, and still do. There have been very few re-signs of players, so it is seems as if the entire league is unaware of the rule. IMO it should be extended this season (I swear it was at the end of the MLB season + a week last season - as Rob and I handled it), and all the GMs should be made aware via PM the dates.
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Re: Resign question
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2012, 08:26:43 PM »
Rob/Dan,

I am sorry, I do not know where Colby got that idea.  Perhaps, he was thinking about prospect extensions.  We use the written rules in cases like this.  The re-sign deadlines are treated as strictly as the trade deadline.

Roy

That is crap.  I have had plans to resign Jordan Zimmerman for months now, but since the former commissioner and CEO of the site posted I get time after the season, I decided to hold off.  I will continue to push this issue.  That is not fair.
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Re: Resign question
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2012, 08:27:34 PM »
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Re: Resign question
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2012, 08:38:52 PM »
That is crap.  I have had plans to resign Jordan Zimmerman for months now, but since the former commissioner and CEO of the site posted I get time after the season, I decided to hold off.  I will continue to push this issue.  That is not fair.

1.  Jordan Zimmerman is a prospect and can be re-signed after the season.  See following rule:

Prospect extensions on expired prospect contracts will be the only type of extensions allowable for expired contracts in the offseason.  Therefore, after the 2011 regular season is over, a P-2011 contract is still eligible for the prospect extension at the 2011 rate.  This window for prospect extensions is open until one week prior to the beginning of offseason free agency.

2.  The words of anyone, including the Commissioner, former Commissioners, or the CEO of the site itself is not above the written rules of the league.  That has always been the policy.  I don't wish to re-hash the whole prospect extension issue from my first year in the league when Colby made me a personal assurance as Commissioner that I could re-sign players on non-prospect contracts to prospect extensions only to be over-ruled by other members of the league.
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Re: Resign question
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2012, 08:42:31 PM »
1.  Jordan Zimmerman is a prospect and can be re-signed after the season.  See following rule:

Prospect extensions on expired prospect contracts will be the only type of extensions allowable for expired contracts in the offseason.  Therefore, after the 2011 regular season is over, a P-2011 contract is still eligible for the prospect extension at the 2011 rate.  This window for prospect extensions is open until one week prior to the beginning of offseason free agency.

2.  The words of anyone, including the Commissioner, former Commissioners, or the CEO of the site itself is not above the written rules of the league.  That has always been the policy.  I don't wish to re-hash the whole prospect extension issue from my first year in the league when Colby made me a personal assurance as Commissioner that I could re-sign players on non-prospect contracts to prospect extensions only to be over-ruled by other members of the league.


Thanks, I apologize for not knowing my stuff. :thumbsup:
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Re: Resign question
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2012, 08:49:16 PM »
Last season it was the end of the MLB season

http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=34737.msg177622#msg177622

I was not responsible for the league last year, but the issue of "hard" and "soft" deadlines came up during the Prado waiver fiasco, and it was determined that there were hard and soft deadlines depending on whether the transactions involved affected roster management or cap management.  The re-sign deadline, much like the trade deadline, is a clear example of a hard deadline. 
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Re: Resign question
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2012, 08:52:15 PM »
That is crap.  I have had plans to resign Jordan Zimmerman for months now, but since the former commissioner and CEO of the site posted I get time after the season, I decided to hold off.  I will continue to push this issue.  That is not fair.

Totally agree, I saw colbs post and was waiting on C.Young and C. Lewis as well
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Resign question
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2012, 09:06:12 PM »
The fact is that it was the end of the MLB season last year. No GM was made aware that the deadline was approaching, so it varies from last year, thus changing expectations. Plus, most don't know that the season has ended. I had no idea the WS was over. I'm all for hard caps, but when the entire league, including 4 very active and aware members (Colby, me, Corey, and rob) had no idea this deadline had passed, that may be a problem in communication. After all it is a really important date.
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Resign question
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2012, 09:14:47 PM »
That is crap.  I have had plans to resign Jordan Zimmerman for months now, but since the former commissioner and CEO of the site posted I get time after the season, I decided to hold off.  I will continue to push this issue.  That is not fair.

Rob and others, please don't bring me into this without me posting in this thread.

I believe some people asked me about the rules and I gave what I knew off the top of my head.  I thought it was until the end of the MLB regular season.  Free agency has always ended at the end of the fantasy regular season but we have had contract extensions until the end of the MLB regular season or a couple weeks afterward.  The key reason is that many want to wait until a player's market value is finalized.
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