Possible Rule Amendment - In season re-signings

[rcankosy]

I agree with everyone.  We can't make a rule change for this September/October.  What I wanted to do was bump this thread to put an end to these rule discussions and move forward with a conclusion.  Here is a thought... allow extensions as actual extensions of the old contract, but these can only be done in the expiring year (example being 2011 contracts this year).  The salary and new contract would start the following year.  This can easily be tracked by forcing us to manage salary caps for not just the current year, but the next five years.  It is something we have started with the new league, New Era.

I like the idea of a two week window after the season ends.  This allows GMs to extend players, but I think there should be a cost to prevent these players from going to FA just like there would be in real life.  A 20% increase above market value seems reasonable turning a $2m salary into $2.5m, $5m into $6m, and $10m into $12m.

There won't be an issue with sign-and-trades thanks to our 60-day rule.  We did accomplish something with rules this past year.  I would like to put this up to a vote with our RC (we still have it, just no board as I felt that hid the conversations).  On our RC is the following...

Jake :WAS:, Ben :MIL:, Colby :PIT:, Roy :TEX:, Dan :CIN:

We need a big market team to be present on the RC.  I would like to nominate Howe who may end up getting the Dodgers job.  Corey :NYM: and Paul S. :STL: seem to be reasonable additions as well.  I don't want the entire league voting on rules as it clouds everything, but I do want active, veteran voices of the league.

I would not be in favor of any increase above market.  I don't think it's necessary, and it inflates the top salaries even higher.

[h4cheng]

I am up to the RC job. I am loud and obnoxious but I do bring another perspective.

[Colby]

I would not be in favor of any increase above market.  I don't think it's necessary, and it inflates the top salaries even higher.

Another idea is to not allow extensions in those two weeks for players with expiring contracts that have a market value of $15m or more.  These are the type of players that persue huge FA deals.  Think Crawford, Lee, and Werth (even AGon and Halladay).

[rcankosy]

I like keeping things simple.  I would support the following:

1.  Extensions for prospects with expiring contracts can take place after the season, because much like real life they have not accrued the service time necessary to be free agents open to bidding from other teams.

2.  Extensions for non-prospects with expiring contracts MUST take place before the end of the year.  That is consistent with real life.  There used to be a re-sign period after the World Series but that has since since eliminated.  I just don't see having your cake and eating it too so to speak in terms of having time AFTER the season to re-sign non-prospects, but maybe that's just me. 

Peace.

[Colby]

I agree with Roy... KISS!

BTW, Howe fills our sixth RC spot.

[Dan Wood]

I believe then, that Hamilton's contract should be reworked since i was under the impression that once the season was over i was SOL. He was a P-2010 which would have given me a 40% discounnt on his 18 million dollar contract.

[Dan Wood]

i believe that votto danks yovi prado and ellsbury also fall into this category

[VolsRaysBucs]

I like keeping things simple.  I would support the following:

1.  Extensions for prospects with expiring contracts can take place after the season, because much like real life they have not accrued the service time necessary to be free agents open to bidding from other teams.

2.  Extensions for non-prospects with expiring contracts MUST take place before the end of the year.  That is consistent with real life.  There used to be a re-sign period after the World Series but that has since since eliminated.  I just don't see having your cake and eating it too so to speak in terms of having time AFTER the season to re-sign non-prospects, but maybe that's just me. 

 :iatp:

Peace.

[rcankosy]

i believe that votto danks yovi prado and ellsbury also fall into this category

There will always be a problem when rules are changed.  I am pretty sure that guys like Matt Kemp were extended before it was even proposed that there be a discount for prospect extensions.  It makes it even more complicated that some extensions were granted this past off-season before the rules were fully clarified.  Someone will get screwed either way here.  Either the guys who signed Hamilton, Votto, etc or the guys with Bruce, Joyce, etc.  It's not an easy call.     

[Dan Wood]

It really comes downn to semantics. If we are saying that someone whose prospect contract expired in 2011 can still be given a prospect extension after the season, thenn it should be granndfathered in for those guys whose prospect eligibility ran out in 2010. In the rules it states that no prospect extensionns could be given out in 2010, but if we consider the day after the seasonn 2011, and we are honoring extensions for 2011 in 2012, then we have to do the same for 2010.