Author Topic: 2014 Draft / Compensation  (Read 1982 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Colby

  • MLFB Founder
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2009
  • Posts: 28820
  • Bonus inPoints: 27
    • :PIT-NFL:
    • :Blank:
    • :PIT-NHL:
    • :PennState:
    • :UnitedStates:
    • View Profile
Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2012, 11:02:59 PM »
Let's include Corey's mention of relievers not receiving compensation - if that is indeed not the case.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Learn about :Commish: inPoints and the Invitationals.

Offline h4cheng

  • MVP
  • ****
  • Join Date: Nov 2009
  • Posts: 4198
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2012, 11:12:06 PM »
Let's include Corey's mention of relievers not receiving compensation - if that is indeed not the case.

A free agent will be subject to compensation if  his former Club offers him a
guaranteed one-year contract with a salary equal to the average salary of the
125-highest paid Players from the prior season.  The offer must be made at the
end of the five-day free agent “quiet period,” and the Player will have seven days
to accept the offer.

If our goal is to follow the MLB draft to a tee then it's possible that a RP would still yield a draft pick.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Dan Wood

  • Guest
Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2012, 11:14:37 PM »
We had a rule in place that you needed to bid on your RFA's in order to receive comepnsation. Maybe we should bring that rule back, to emulate the "extension" clause in the new set of MLB rules.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Dan Wood

  • Guest
Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2012, 11:16:06 PM »
Re: relief pitchers...wait til the season starts to sign them. If you are really jonesing for them, then yes they should count as all other players do
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline h4cheng

  • MVP
  • ****
  • Join Date: Nov 2009
  • Posts: 4198
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2012, 11:19:11 PM »
We had a rule in place that you needed to bid on your RFA's in order to receive comepnsation. Maybe we should bring that rule back, to emulate the "extension" clause in the new set of MLB rules.

Don't know how to describe this so will just give an example of why I dont like the bid on your own RFA rule:

Luis Ayala ends the season with LAD and is the no.70 RP in the game. He goes to FA and :CIN: bids 1M at 12:01am. :LAD: would then need to place a bid higher than 1M to qualify for compensation when in reality a 1M bid would be the market value bid.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Brewers GM

  • Guest
Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2012, 11:36:46 PM »
Don't know how to describe this so will just give an example of why I dont like the bid on your own RFA rule:

Luis Ayala ends the season with LAD and is the no.70 RP in the game. He goes to FA and :CIN: bids 1M at 12:01am. :LAD: would then need to place a bid higher than 1M to qualify for compensation when in reality a 1M bid would be the market value bid.

Have the same concerns.   :iatp:
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Dan Wood

  • Guest
Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2012, 01:47:14 PM »
The RFA's would have to be posted by some sort of governing body as opposed to the former owning team throwing out the opening bid. I had that issue with our original bidding process. Unless you guys can figure out a way to negotiate with someone who doesn't exist.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline h4cheng

  • MVP
  • ****
  • Join Date: Nov 2009
  • Posts: 4198
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2012, 02:29:53 PM »
Again the big picture question is, what's the overall direction for FGM draft? Try to emulate MLB, or go with something different?
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Dan Wood

  • Guest
Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2012, 04:33:05 PM »
The overall point of this league has been to emulate MLB as best as we can. I would also like to add to sit on changing this until 2014 goes against that. I'm sure the real life Mets were hoping to get a pretty solid draft pick for Jose Reyes, but the CBA was agreed upon, and well they did not. If we are to do this, then it must take hold for the 2013 entry draft.

As far as putting a limit on spending, this goes back to my argument from day 1. We are all constrained by our 40 man roster salary cap, which does not emulate MLB. What teams spend on their 40 man roster is different than what they spend on their draft signings and player development. IMO we should all get 10 mil to play with for the draft and that's that. I don't think it should come out of our salary cap, and never have, since the two are totally different from a business aspect of running a baseball team.

I agree with giving teams an overall cap, but I do not agree with the fact that we should have to spend from our cap on draft picks. I have also been a proponent of doing away with signing bonuses and just letting GMs draft as they see fit, without the constraints of signing bonuses. I am also of the belief that if they don't sign with a team, we should not be able to sign them.  We are no longer in the days when someone takes Matt Bush because he is a more affordable than the better player that could be drafted behind him. Plus we don't have owners that we have to haggle with. Shooter would have never been able to do what he did if Angelos was hovering over him. Just saying.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline h4cheng

  • MVP
  • ****
  • Join Date: Nov 2009
  • Posts: 4198
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2012, 05:09:22 PM »
My proposal:

Draft length: still 10 rounds
Signing bonus: no. Punishes small market team too much.
Draft pick trading: yes
Compensation draft picks: only for the top 125 overall players by points scored
Competitive balance draft: yes


funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

 

Forum Search


Quick Profile

 
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

* Chat Room

Refresh History
  • BayAreaBallers: will that need to eb accounted for
    May 21, 2024, 10:00:22 PM
  • Daddy: @BAB as per LIVE rules... All new ownership gets free drops year one.
    May 21, 2024, 10:00:25 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: or are they still ours
    May 21, 2024, 10:00:28 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: that part i get
    May 21, 2024, 10:00:51 PM
  • Daddy: The rosters are set by a prior date not todays or tomorrows
    May 21, 2024, 10:00:53 PM
  • Daddy: If someone appears on your roster its because they are your player
    May 21, 2024, 10:01:21 PM
  • Daddy: Regardless of who they start the new season with.
    May 21, 2024, 10:01:40 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: are we allowed to post drops now or is that at a different time
    May 21, 2024, 10:02:42 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: last question
    May 21, 2024, 10:02:46 PM
  • Daddy: Only the newest NBA LIVE rosters are unknown as we will go with the newest version for the upcoming 2024/25 season.
    May 21, 2024, 10:02:54 PM
  • Daddy: NHL LIVE you must wait.
    May 21, 2024, 10:03:15 PM
  • Daddy: It doesnt start till 6/1
    May 21, 2024, 10:03:28 PM
  • Daddy: We just work fast ;)
    May 21, 2024, 10:03:45 PM
  • Daddy: Looks like its ready but the SS isnt finished and we cant do transactions till we finish.
    May 21, 2024, 10:04:25 PM
  • Daddy: Its not like the others. Its got NHL/AHL and formulas need perfected.
    May 21, 2024, 10:04:56 PM
  • Daddy: A lot of LIVE GMs came after i had won in football and built a monster in baseball. Many of you weren't there for the start. Like STLBlues. Like Braves. So you talk smack to the old Man (me).
    May 21, 2024, 10:09:00 PM
  • Daddy: I cannot wait to start these virgin leagues. So that (you too BAB) can get your deserved foots from day one. :)
    May 21, 2024, 10:10:30 PM
  • Daddy: Size 13 (lubricant included sponsored by *Acme Bigfoot Jelly Inc)
    May 21, 2024, 10:12:47 PM
  • Brent: I don't know Hockey, but NHL Live sounds good.  I probably shouldn't have left FGM as I have a little more time than I thought after leaving a bunch of other leagues.
    May 21, 2024, 10:38:24 PM
  • STLBlues91: Think there are 3 more teams left until NHL gets filled up
    May 21, 2024, 10:40:10 PM
  • Daddy: Four (4) NY Islanders >> Nashville Predators >> Ottawa Senators >> LA Kings
    May 21, 2024, 10:50:47 PM
  • Daddy: They each had owners who uncommitted two of them went to other sites to try to copy the concept. Problem is no Daddy, no staff,  no LIVE.
    May 21, 2024, 10:52:54 PM
  • Daddy: Nobody on Earth does hockey like we are about to do it. Its a shame 28 teams are gone without most of the true profsl hockey guys signing up. That's a huge loss. For them.
    May 21, 2024, 10:54:45 PM
  • Daddy: If you love hockey and you love dynasty and you arent in LIVE than you must hate me or competition more than you love the others. Which is petty & not worth our efforts anyway.
    May 21, 2024, 10:56:10 PM
  • Daddy: NHL LIVE Spreadsheet [link] should be available to be seen.
    May 21, 2024, 11:35:31 PM
  • Daddy: @Brent we sincerely hope that you do join as a HOF level dynasty GM. The rules and a lot of format carry over from one LIVE league to another.
    May 21, 2024, 11:56:46 PM
  • Daddy: We believe that even if you don't know a sport well, we provide the material, and enough guidance advice that any disadvantages are minimized. Hockey is one of the greatest sports of all time.
    May 21, 2024, 11:58:09 PM
  • ldsjayhawk: Brent should I put you on the waiting list for the next opening?
    Yesterday at 10:53:35 AM
  • Brent: Nah, I need to resist.  I built the team I wanted and decided to leave so that's on me.
    Yesterday at 11:28:04 AM
  • indiansnation: Is their a way i can lgo and check out prospects in nhl live and get statistics
    Yesterday at 01:02:05 PM
  • Daddy: We have the same prospects as real life. Same draft class coming in. You are loaded for Bear.
    Yesterday at 01:06:11 PM
  • Daddy: The contracts that expire in 2023. Are upcoming FA. We giving a chance to extend 6/1
    Yesterday at 01:08:31 PM
  • indiansnation: I finally looked at the minors and i got a 40 year old player in my minors
    Yesterday at 01:27:00 PM
  • Daddy: Did we put Sidney Crosby in your Juniors? Whats the resolution you seek?
    Yesterday at 01:57:39 PM
  • indiansnation: No resolution i just saw it. No rrsolution
    Yesterday at 05:49:02 PM
  • Daddy: Ok. You know you can cut anyone you want and with FROZEN FRENZY as well as the draft we all have a ton of moves to make.
    Yesterday at 06:11:32 PM
  • Daddy: Hockey players don't make what football, basketball, baseball players make. The cap is lower than other LIVE leagues.
    Yesterday at 06:13:00 PM
  • Daddy: NFL Teams in OTAs. Hockey & Baseball Drafts approach
    Yesterday at 06:14:26 PM
  • STLBlues91: Yeah when we were filling rosters we just included everyone we could since they can be cut. I will be cutting a chunk of guys once we start up
    Yesterday at 06:14:45 PM
  • Daddy: Trading too. Not just cutting. Virgin teams need diversified. Ive seen owners swap half of they're starting players to get diversified.
    Yesterday at 06:16:51 PM
  • Daddy: New leagues should be the most active because everyone has a ton of assets.
    Yesterday at 06:18:24 PM
  • Bigdon: Is there any openings in nfl.l8ve
    Yesterday at 11:09:21 PM
  • indiansnation: Hey bigdon if u looking to trade in mlb live let me know im guardians
    Yesterday at 11:24:50 PM
  • Bigdon: Well listen to all offers I need team in nfl live I am in all other leagues
    Yesterday at 11:31:05 PM
  • indiansnation: Bigdon pm sent u trade offer in mlb live
    Yesterday at 11:55:00 PM
  • indiansnation: Bigdon sent u new pm with new trade offer
    Today at 12:08:07 AM
  • indiansnation: Bigdon ill post trade right know
    Today at 12:13:33 AM
  • indiansnation: Bigdon trade posted in mlb live
    Today at 12:24:42 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: bigdon sent ya a message also i dont think nfl has any openings rn
    Today at 12:31:00 AM
  • indiansnation: Bayarea Ballers pm about giants in mlb live
    Today at 12:32:31 AM