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chicubs33

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Cubs/Rays Trade
« on: January 04, 2012, 11:45:05 PM »
Rays Receive:
Anibal Sanchez (SP) $3.7M
Geovany Soto (C) $3M
Brett Jackson (OF)
Trey McNutt (SP)


Cubs Receive:
Jeff Niemann (SP) $903,000
J.P. Howell (RP) $1.1M
Brandon Guyer (OF)
Alex Torres (SP)
Oscar Hernandez (C)
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Re: Cubs/Rays Trade
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2012, 11:56:50 PM »
Another great move for the Cubs focusing on reducing a little payroll but at the same time adding young quality talent. Although losing Sanchez and Soto will hurt the immediate success of the team the Cubs feel like Niemann can fill a roll at a lower cost in the future without losing much as far as results on the field. We feel the centerpiece to this deal is Brandon Guyer who we are proud to welcome back to the organization as well as new comer Alex Torres. In addition to that we continue to strengthen the bullpen to help the starting rotation with Howell and add to a corp of talented young catching prospects with Hernandez. Thanks to the Rays for their cooperation and looking forward to future deals.
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Re: Cubs/Rays Trade
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2012, 11:57:54 AM »
The Rays agree to this trade.  We view this deal as a crucial step forward for our franchise.  The loss of David Price in the Hanley Ramirez trade left our squad with a shortage of quality rotation arms.  With Sanchez in the mix, we feel much stronger about our top 4 SPs and we won't be forced to spend big in free agency.  Likewise, Soto provides much needed help at the catcher position.  With so few viable catchers available in free agency, the need was apparent.  Jackson was the top prospect in the Cubs system and could very well crack the Opening Day lineup if Theo keeps dealing the bad contracts out of Chicago.  McNutt is also a Top 5 talent from the Cubs system and fits nicely into my stockpile of young arms.

We view Sanchez as a considerable improvement over Niemann, Soto as a considerable improvement over Howell, and Jackson as a considerable improvement over Guyer.  Torres to McNutt is a small net loss and Oscar is still a few years away from contribution.  Overall, it was a small dropoff for our farm system, and we picked up some salary, but we gave our team a considerable boost for this season.

Best of luck to the Cubs.  This will certainly not be our last deal together.
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Re: Cubs/Rays Trade
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2012, 09:44:10 PM »
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Re: Cubs/Rays Trade
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2012, 02:41:04 PM »
I really prefer one side of this trade, but approvable. :iatp:

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Re: Cubs/Rays Trade
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2012, 02:54:42 PM »
I might be the only one but I can't approve this. IMO its not even close!
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Re: Cubs/Rays Trade
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2012, 02:55:47 PM »
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Re: Cubs/Rays Trade
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2012, 10:45:37 PM »
I am very on the fence for this one. Can the Rays explain why Guyer is the central piece of this deal? IMO, Jackson >> Guyer.
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Re: Cubs/Rays Trade
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2012, 03:56:42 AM »
Rays Receive:
Anibal Sanchez (SP) $3.7M
Geovany Soto (C) $3M
Brett Jackson (OF)
Trey McNutt (SP)


Cubs Receive:
Jeff Niemann (SP) $903,000
J.P. Howell (RP) $1.1M
Brandon Guyer (OF)
Alex Torres (SP)
Oscar Hernandez (C)

I dont see the value in this deal , Anibal is the better arm in the deal, by quite a bit, Jackson is a higher touted OF spect than Guyer is , Soto is  still a solid C at a tough position to fill and under 30 still, so he is clearly more valuable than a Howell type. The Torres and Hernandez portion is so so, but not nearly enough to offset the fact the 3 best guys in the deal are all going to tampa. I dont like this deal

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Re: Cubs/Rays Trade
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2012, 04:39:43 PM »
I am on the fence, but the deal is passable... :iatp:
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