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Re: Jays moves -- TORONTO GM Please Read
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2016, 11:35:55 AM »
I contacted Fantrax about Derek Dietrich.  I wrote:

On Thu, 04 Aug 2016, phbb1954@gmail.com wrote:

League ID: kmkfzrq8ifjdypi3 (PREMIUM)
League Name (MLB 2016 Reg): Franchise GM 2016

Username: flash (Commissioner) (Member since Sep 23, 2010)

Name: Ernesto Quiroz
Email: phbb1954@gmail.com
Sent: Thu Aug 04 02:46:16 EDT 2016
Server: app3

We use the points rank for each player as the basis for our extensions.
This player, Derek Dietrich, MIA, has eligibility as a MI, CI, & OF. When
I look at his OF numbers, it says he is our 7th ranked OF with 2433.2
points and 1474 as a MI. The 1474 is listed on his team roster as his
fantasy points. Why is he listed as 2433.2 as an OF--is it a mistake.

This is their response:

No, not a mistake. When you select "OF", it scores him as an OF, and so forth.

Thanks,
Neil
The Fantrax Team

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With that, we are going to have to go with his #7 ranking for the purposes of contract extensions.  So, if you want to extend Derek Dietrich with the 60% rule, his extension will have to be $7.0m (2021).

I know this is not the answer you want, but it is the reality we have to deal with.  I can assure you that we are not trying to be unfair to you in this instance.  We all rely on the Fantrax scoring system and we utilize it for all scoring aspects in FGM.  We cannot disregard its data when we are assured by the Fantrax staff there is not an error. 

Please let us know how you want us to proceed.


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Re: Jays moves -- TORONTO GM Please Read
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2016, 02:51:12 PM »
This is absolute BS. Can we remove his eligibility as OF or something? I don't even want him to play OF. How come his points are worth more as an OF? It is the same crappy stat line, and there is a serious issue with our scoring system if that stat line is ranked as #7 top OF.
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2016, 02:57:16 PM »
Also, he has only played 4 games as OF this season, so he will lose eligibility after the season. I do not see why I have to extend him based on the OF rank
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Re: Jays moves -- TORONTO GM Please Read
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2016, 04:00:47 PM »
I might be piping in where I'm not wanted, but there is definitely something wrong with Fantrax or our league scoring settings. Dietrich has different pts values depending which position you pick, CI, MI, and OF are all different.

So I checked Forsythe on my team, his values are also different based on whether I choose MI or CI. So something is going on with different scoring values for different positions. If I knew this, I would've started him at whichever position is scoring more pts. This issue could be throwing the whole season's scoring off if it's for every multiposition player, and if those pts differences are reflected in weekly scoring.

I haven't checked the rules yet, but is scoring supposed to be different for hitters based on which position they play?
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Re: Jays moves -- TORONTO GM Please Read
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2016, 04:08:01 PM »
Oh wow, my bad. I just read the rules and the fielding scoring is different for every position lol. Not sure how I missed that, but I'm going to have to re-think my whole lineup.
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Re: Jays moves -- TORONTO GM Please Read
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2016, 07:17:23 PM »
 It always has been different. Always helps to know the rules
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Re: Jays moves -- TORONTO GM Please Read
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2016, 07:49:43 PM »
Lol, I spend half my time on this board in the rules, somehow missed the different fielding values though.
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Re: Jays moves -- TORONTO GM Please Read
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2016, 12:33:47 PM »
This is absolute BS. Can we remove his eligibility as OF or something? I don't even want him to play OF. How come his points are worth more as an OF? It is the same crappy stat line, and there is a serious issue with our scoring system if that stat line is ranked as #7 top OF.

Also, he has only played 4 games as OF this season, so he will lose eligibility after the season. I do not see why I have to extend him based on the OF rank

Extensions are computed based on all position eligibility.  Your declaration that you do not intend to use him as an OF is not really relevant.  The fact that he is currently OF eligible is something we cannot ignore or remove. 

The decision is yours:  Keep him with a contract extension at $7.0m (2021) -- or let him go to free agency.  You could also wait to see if he drops in rank so the contract extension is less.

The choice is yours.
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Re: Jays moves -- TORONTO GM Please Read
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2016, 11:55:44 AM »
I am not extending him now. He should drop rank now that he is playing less. Two questions though: How long after the season is the window to extend prospects? If he loses eligibility after the season (which he should the way it's going), can I extend him at the other positions as soon as the season is over?
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Re: Jays moves -- TORONTO GM Please Read
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2016, 12:18:21 PM »
I am not extending him now. He should drop rank now that he is playing less. Two questions though: How long after the season is the window to extend prospects? If he loses eligibility after the season (which he should the way it's going), can I extend him at the other positions as soon as the season is over?

You have until midnight Eastern 9/26/16 to extend contracts. That is the end of our fiscal year; he would automatically become a FA so, no, he cannot be extended in the off-season.
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