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Re: Avs/Pens trade
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2011, 02:30:22 AM »
I'm not on the trade committee but I think this trade is crazy lopsided.  Malkin had a terrible season last year, and without a freak knee injury would've had a more productive season that Chris Stewart has ever had.  A straight up trade makes sense, because the cap dump compensates for the skill difference between the 2 players, but to also add a 1st round pick seems too much.  Just my 2 cents as a fellow manager.

after looking up Malkin, I didn't realize he was so injured.

The thing is is that he seems so injury proned, though I do kind of agree that he is ertainly better when healthy.

I'd like to retract my bid for the being, if I'm allowed.
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2011, 10:54:20 AM »
You also have to consider that Stew was injured almost all last yr too then eh! When healthy he is a PPG or more player. I think in the other trade (MTL Trade) that went through we set a precident that the cap dump allows for a bigger gap, if we let that deal go through, I dont see why this one gets un-approved.

Not that this trade affects me directly, but just my opinion that a 6 million cap save is a HUGE bonus as they can be 2 more good players. And it seems Stewart is being under-estimated a bit here as he is a start RW in fantasy terms
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Re: Avs/Pens trade
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2011, 12:07:30 PM »
You also have to consider that Stew was injured almost all last yr too then eh! When healthy he is a PPG or more player. I think in the other trade (MTL Trade) that went through we set a precident that the cap dump allows for a bigger gap, if we let that deal go through, I dont see why this one gets un-approved.

Not that this trade affects me directly, but just my opinion that a 6 million cap save is a HUGE bonus as they can be 2 more good players. And it seems Stewart is being under-estimated a bit here as he is a start RW in fantasy terms

Stewart has yet to be a ppg player, he is close and he's getting better every year, but Malkin is proven to be more than a ppg player. I'm not under-estimating Stewart, he is a great young talent on the rise, but he is yet to show he can produce at more than a ppg, maybe he would have last year, but'll we can't know that now. Also I thought from the get-go that the Montreal trade was even, and the cap space gained was only a few mil per year. I'm fine with deals that save Cap, I approved the Sabres/Pens trade no problem, but this is a different thing entirely. I've been thinking about this one really hard and I veto.
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Re: Avs/Pens trade
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2011, 03:33:43 PM »
ill change my vote to veto. i have been convinced. without the picks it would be fine.
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Re: Avs/Pens trade
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2011, 08:23:34 PM »
Far too lopsided for me.

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Re: Avs/Pens trade
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2011, 09:05:03 AM »
Just my 2 cents.  1) Stud RW are much harder to find than Centers. 2) Stewart has only played 2 years in the NHL and has improved every year.  3) Stewart hits more 4) If you look at the production from last year Stewart was scoring at a higher pace per game.  oh and 6 million cheaper. 

The other thing I will point out is that Cho34 is currently running 15 fantasy teams. It is not like he is a newbie.
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Re: Avs/Pens trade
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2011, 10:36:09 AM »
I also checked fantasy points for both in the last 2 years

Chris Stewart 2010 - 205.2    2009 - 260.95

Malkin --- 2010 - 151.7   2009 -- 275.5
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Re: Avs/Pens trade
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2011, 04:55:08 PM »
after reconsidering 2 times i decide to allow this trade. The players are pretty even. a late first round for an early 4th round is just so he would take the cap space IMO.

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« Last Edit: July 18, 2011, 10:52:46 PM by gocubsgo7 »
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Re: Avs/Pens trade
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2011, 10:52:52 PM »
Considering that Malkin is like $6M more, I will allow.
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Re: Avs/Pens trade
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2011, 01:15:10 AM »
i approve this trade guys
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