Author Topic: Possible Rule Amendment - In season re-signings  (Read 11614 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Colby

  • MLFB Founder
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2009
  • Posts: 28820
  • Bonus inPoints: 27
    • :PIT-NFL:
    • :Blank:
    • :PIT-NHL:
    • :PennState:
    • :UnitedStates:
    • View Profile
Re: Possible Rule Amendment - In season re-signings
« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2011, 11:50:51 AM »
I am bumping this based on recent PMs I have received about extensions.  There was no rule change made because of this thread.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Learn about :Commish: inPoints and the Invitationals.

Offline rcankosy

  • MVP
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 2501
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: Possible Rule Amendment - In season re-signings
« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2011, 12:48:17 PM »
I believe that there were a few prospect extensions processed this past off-season.  Justin Upton comes to mind.  Did any of them receive prospect discounts (60, 50, 40, 30%) AFTER their prospect contracts ran out?  I assumed that you could still receive the discount after the final year of the prospect contract, but now I am not sure after reading Dan's comments on the first page of this thread (see below).

- If a player is in his final year of prospect eligibility, then tough breaks, either take the hit this year, or you do not get to sign said player under a prospect extension.

funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Dan Wood

  • Guest
Re: Possible Rule Amendment - In season re-signings
« Reply #52 on: June 01, 2011, 12:50:02 PM »
Upton did receive the 40% discount since he was in the final year of his prospect eligibility
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline OUDAN

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2011
  • Posts: 12262
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :DAL:
    • :LAL:
    • :Blank:
    • :Oklahoma:
    • :NYY:
    • View Profile
Re: Possible Rule Amendment - In season re-signings
« Reply #53 on: June 01, 2011, 12:52:44 PM »
how would i know if someone is in the final year of their spec elligibility?
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
"People don't know what it means to be champions, Oklahoma invented it."
-Barry "The King" Switzer

"Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose!
-Coach Taylor

I hated every moment of training but I said, "Don't quit, Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a Champion."
-Mohammed Ali

:win: 2014 FGM Champ
:win: 2015 Moneyball Champ
:win: 2015 Bush League Champ

Offline rcankosy

  • MVP
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 2501
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: Possible Rule Amendment - In season re-signings
« Reply #54 on: June 01, 2011, 01:04:00 PM »
So it sounds like we are saying that someone with a contract of $0.5m (P-2011) has to be re-signed PRIOR to the end of the season and the cap hit takes effect NOW in order to receive the 40% discount.  I'm not sure everybody interpreted the rule that way, because I did not.  Is that really how ALL of the prospects were treated in the off-season??? 
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

bravesfan4

  • Guest
Re: Possible Rule Amendment - In season re-signings
« Reply #55 on: June 01, 2011, 01:09:13 PM »
So it sounds like we are saying that someone with a contract of $0.5m (P-2011) has to be re-signed PRIOR to the end of the season and the cap hit takes effect NOW in order to receive the 40% discount.  I'm not sure everybody interpreted the rule that way, because I did not.  Is that really how ALL of the prospects were treated in the off-season??? 

No. I think we made a mistake. In order to receive the prospect extension discount the player must be resigned before the end of the year of the final year. So P-2011 must be resigned before we complete this season. If we do it after the season then the discount goes away. I do not know what year Cargo's eligibility ran out but he was signed after the season. If he was a P-2011 then a mistake was made.

However, with that being said, I think we should leave the rule as is but pay better attention to it.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Dan Wood

  • Guest
Re: Possible Rule Amendment - In season re-signings
« Reply #56 on: June 01, 2011, 01:16:22 PM »
Prospects should be treated the same as regular contracts, in that if they expire then you are out of luck. This is what the whole thread was started about. Since so many players were traded this off-season with expired contracts we decided to vote on if that should be allowed going forward since it seriously affected the free agent class.

The same should hold true with prospects. In season or pre season signings. For instance Colby Rasmus is P-2012 - if I signed him this year to a prospect contract I get the 50% discount. If I do it one day after this season ends, it should automatically go to the 40% that would be in effect for the entire 2012 season. If by the end of the 2012 season I have not offered him a prospect contract then I have to pay him the full market rate.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline Colby

  • MLFB Founder
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2009
  • Posts: 28820
  • Bonus inPoints: 27
    • :PIT-NFL:
    • :Blank:
    • :PIT-NHL:
    • :PennState:
    • :UnitedStates:
    • View Profile
Re: Possible Rule Amendment - In season re-signings
« Reply #57 on: June 01, 2011, 02:05:03 PM »
Correct, but we did not make a ruling on trading expiring contracts...
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Learn about :Commish: inPoints and the Invitationals.

Dan Wood

  • Guest
Re: Possible Rule Amendment - In season re-signings
« Reply #58 on: June 01, 2011, 02:08:24 PM »
This is true, but didn't we vote on something in this thread?
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline Colby

  • MLFB Founder
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2009
  • Posts: 28820
  • Bonus inPoints: 27
    • :PIT-NFL:
    • :Blank:
    • :PIT-NHL:
    • :PennState:
    • :UnitedStates:
    • View Profile
Re: Possible Rule Amendment - In season re-signings
« Reply #59 on: June 01, 2011, 02:23:46 PM »
This is true, but didn't we vote on something in this thread?

The voting stalled... We even discussed having a couple weeks window to trade said players.  I think we should treat it realistically and not allow extensions on expiring contracts.  We could give a 10% discount for those teams, but I feel all of this is too late.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Learn about :Commish: inPoints and the Invitationals.

 

Forum Search


Quick Profile

 
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

* Chat Room

Refresh History
  • indiansnation: Disney trying yo buy nfl network and using espn as part of the trade off nfl will own a certain % of espn. First deal eas 70m for nfl network but nfl turned that down real quick
    Yesterday at 09:46:43 PM
  • indiansnation: Anyone want to talk trade nfl live,mlb live,fgm,armchair
    Yesterday at 10:00:02 PM
  • indiansnation: And any other league that im in that i didnt post yet
    Yesterday at 10:00:35 PM
  • Daddy: They keep throwing insane money at the NFL to televise games and owners share those shiny pennies just enough with the players.
    Yesterday at 10:39:25 PM
  • ldsjayhawk: I'm available.  Not sure if we match up anywhere other than NHL Live, but let me know if there's something you're interested in @Brian
    Yesterday at 10:45:39 PM
  • ldsjayhawk: The other leagues for me are FGM, MLB Live and DNHL in case any-one else is looking to do a deal
    Yesterday at 10:49:01 PM
  • Daddy: Healthy mix. Couple baseball, couple hockey, different scoring options.
    Yesterday at 11:08:15 PM
  • Daddy: You probably kick ass in all of them although NHL LIVE hasnt officially started.
    Yesterday at 11:08:42 PM
  • Daddy: I respect your gaming options
    Yesterday at 11:09:54 PM
  • Daddy: I would for sure be an FGM or Armchair owner if i were here for baseball. Powerhouse too. Why not? Great leagues with better LMs.
    Yesterday at 11:16:38 PM
  • Daddy: DNHL must be 15 years old. Gotta be doing something right. Most leagues dont make it past 5. Very few make it 10.
    Yesterday at 11:20:45 PM
  • Daddy: I think Rob been running that league longer than ive been on profsl. Legendary LM.
    Yesterday at 11:22:42 PM
  • indiansnation: Jmntl82 pm important messave about armchair
    Yesterday at 11:45:05 PM
  • jmntl82: indiansnation-replied
    Yesterday at 11:48:26 PM
  • ldsjayhawk: thanks @daddy.  I hold my own
    Today at 12:05:43 AM
  • Braves155: Will be around today for deal talks - ANY sport
    Today at 10:12:32 AM
  • Daddy: You tellem @Braves!
    Today at 11:47:14 AM
  • IndianaBuc: Braves PM
    Today at 03:04:47 PM
  • Braves155: Back
    Today at 03:10:34 PM
  • IndianaBuc: Back
    Today at 03:19:17 PM
  • Daddy: Better be glad Buc dont know hockey. He'd be IndianaPuc on yall asses.
    Today at 03:54:00 PM
  • Braves155: Speaking of NHL. Anyone up for an NHL LIVE deal?
    Today at 04:05:16 PM
  • Braves155: PM Blues
    Today at 04:07:53 PM
  • Brent: I am.  I read up on stuff today, I think I have a direction for my Predators.
    Today at 04:23:17 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Im here for NFL Live. I get the trade itch every day but ive been suppressing it. Waiting for someone to make me submit to the madness again
    Today at 04:48:32 PM
  • Braves155: Pm there buddy
    Today at 04:53:17 PM
  • Braves155: PM as well dbreer
    Today at 04:58:57 PM
  • dbreer23: replied Braves
    Today at 05:10:11 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: PM Braves
    Today at 05:31:50 PM
  • indiansnation: Hey guys whats up
    Today at 05:31:53 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: NHL LIVE FOLKS sharks have zadina otb any interest message me ask is prospects and picks
    Today at 05:32:27 PM
  • indiansnation: Lets talk trade
    Today at 05:32:30 PM
  • indiansnation: Indians mlb live looking to trade
    Today at 05:37:05 PM
  • indiansnation: Nfl live colts looking for starting rb
    Today at 05:37:24 PM
  • indiansnation: Braves155 pm
    Today at 05:38:39 PM
  • indiansnation: ldsjayhawks pm
    Today at 05:38:48 PM
  • Daddy: Oh Crap. Trade winds blowing like P Diddy sponsored them.
    Today at 05:45:23 PM
  • Daddy: Flyers, Rams, Blue Jays, 76ers have responded to all inquiries. Not that my inbox gets flooded with offers. My teams all stink.
    Today at 05:47:35 PM
  • Daddy: T Wolves loaded but its too early yet. Cant wait for NBA.
    Today at 05:49:02 PM
  • indiansnation: Braves155 pm
    Today at 07:25:36 PM
  • indiansnation: Daddy pm
    Today at 07:28:41 PM
  • Daddy: Back Brian
    Today at 07:39:44 PM
  • indiansnation: Back daddy
    Today at 07:47:43 PM
  • Daddy: I want to trade in NBA LIVE too. Its just the baby stages and we dont even know the summer player movement yet. Rosters will look different by the time of the draft.
    Today at 07:54:55 PM
  • Daddy: Its exciting. Only CCD remains active in basketball. Ive seen LOR fail here but get picked up elsewhere and i guess its ok.
    Today at 07:56:11 PM
  • Daddy: They all pretty much use the same format. NBA LIVE we feel weve revolutionized todays Dynasty basketball standards.
    Today at 07:57:00 PM
  • Daddy: Cant wait to trade but weve got 11 owners to find and an entire summer of movement to track.
    Today at 07:58:52 PM
  • indiansnation: Braves155 pm offer sent
    Today at 07:58:55 PM
  • Daddy: Lots of traffic onsite. Weve been near 1000 visitors all day. Im told they find out chat entertaining. Thats funny. If you are visiting and see this chat.
    Today at 08:02:20 PM
  • Daddy: Welcome to ProFsl. We do Fantasy "Dynasty" Sports here & we do it better than anyone else.
    Today at 08:03:08 PM