Franchise NHL - Questions Section

[snugerud]

Ha ha,  definitely not philosophy. 

That was my exact intent, your revision works as well.  For example with Lecalvier what stops me from waiving him at the 66% buy out , dropping his cap hit to 5.1 million and the rebidding on him up to the 5.1 mark,  I would really have nothing to lose. 

[PigsRule]

with any startup league (referring to FNHL back in 2010-11 when it started), you can't foresee some situations and other times, you don't want to "lawyer-a-fy" your rules to the point new GMs can't be bothered to even try reading them.

personally, you can resign Lecavalier if you're the successful bidder and get the discount off the original b/o.

in this case, i'm not inclined to write a new rule to plug the "hole" because it does unburden a team from a big + long contract they might've inherited from a GM who had a different strategy.

also, i don't see it happening very often so why put the energy to "correct" something that isn't broken nor being abused by the masses.

[PigsRule]

i'll ask the former commish to provide his input since i'm not exactly sure how it was done last yr as i just woke up one day and was told to go to a new fantrax FNHL playoff site.

hockeyfreak6000 would clarify what was done last yr.

it was potentially an area i would recommend a change to but i don't want to touch too many rules, especially those that are not detrimental to the success of the league, like playoff format + qualifying.

hockeyfreak6000, are you around?

[Capn Cally]

I think it's a great strategic play if you have an overpaid guy....

Lecavalier was 7.7m per season, and now is only 5.1m on the books.

Even if you would end up with him at 7m per season, it would still be less, and it would still be less years on his contract (didn't he have like 7 years left on that 7.7m deal?)

I'm all but expecting you to open the bidding up on him at 15.3m...!
Even if you get bid up on, you'll still save all the cap space!



I think in the future it is a loophole that could be exploited, with all the huge and high contracts here.
What if most teams had very little cap space a month into the season...?
Someone with a 9-10m per year player could buy buy him out, paying 6-6.5m on the buyout, and try to win that player back at 6.5m per year, saving cap that way. If teams don't have the cap to make a 6.5m per year bid, then they can't!

Worst case scenario for that owner is he upps the bidding back to the original 9-10m per year salary which no one would match anyways, and all he loses is maybe a week of fanpoint production while all the bidding is going on - It would sure be a gamble I'd be willing to make if I held one of those overpriced guys!



My 2 examples used here glancing over that worst contract thread:
G - Ilya Bryzgalov, $13.7m (2015-2016)
G - Corey Crawford, $12.0m (2015-2016)


But out Bryz at 9.1m per year on a buyout or Crawford at 8m per.

Start Bryz's thread off with a 45.5m bid or Craw at 40m

Not sure how high bidding would go after that, but I don't know how many teams that will have 8m+ of cap space a month into the season.... And at that, very few if any would have 12m or more.

But if it came down to it, Craw bidding goes to 60m from the same owner who just bought him out and he just keeps him at the same price, and Bryz goes to whatever insane bid it would take to get him back from the same owner.
I don't know anyone else right now that would be paying 13m a year for Bryz, let alone 12m!
Like I said, if I owned a huge priced player that is the route I would take for sure. As mentioned, worst thing is that you lose a week of fanpoints and get the player back at the same price, or maybe 1m less or so per year.

[cloud91]

requesting the MiLR list in one page as the minor players not listed in fantrax team page,,,
so we will not have a hard time locating minor players in each team page here in profsl,,,
and so we can know immediately if the player we want to sign in FA is not part of a teams minor roster.....

thanks!

[dickiedunn]

[snugerud]

this was the type of abuse on the rule that I was worried about happening. 

[PigsRule]

3 yrs, No offense this is a serious question. Why go through the exercise of asking the contract for each player?  The length is always dictated by the total bid.  There is no such thing as a variable contract in FNHL.

for the most part, you're correct. however in some cases there can be a modification made to the contract where a player gets bumped up from a 2yr deal to 3yrs etc.

also, it's a double confirmation process, 1st contract confirmation by team, then 2nd confirmation by the processing team ( ). papertrail.

You could save your self extra time by just completing the transaction and posting the years of the contract.

as much as i'd love to do that, we need the double confirmation process given the way contracts are determined in FNHL + just the double checking thing.

in an ideal world... my admin would be processing this and i'd be on the golf course or downing a bombay tonic in the clubhouse.



aug31-12 comment: this post was split from the Roman Cervanka FA bidding thread and is a valid question & answer for all to be aware of.

[snugerud]

gotcha, just thought it seemed redundant but I understand the logic.  Just thought it would save everyone an extra post.

[snugerud]

Has the extension prices been increased in the past at the same percentage of the increases in cap space?