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Dallas and Chicago make a swap
« on: July 26, 2012, 08:48:30 PM »
dallas gets
Jonathan Toews, $6.3m (2014-2015)
Martin Biron, $0.9m (2011-2012) - Contract Expires 8/4/2012
2012 second Chicago

Chicago gets
2012 1st dallas
2012 round 3 dallas
C - Evgeny Grachev, N/C, (32 Games)
Danny Cleary, $2.8m (2012-2013)
Stephen Weiss, $3.1m (2012-2013)
Johnny Oduya, $0.3m (2012-2013)
Matt Gilroy, $1.4m (2012-2013)

I'm very happy to get this move done. I move some good players and a first rounder but get one of my personal favorites Towes back!!. Thanks for the smooth deal. :toast: :toast:
« Last Edit: July 29, 2012, 03:43:21 PM by hockeyfreak6000 »
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Re: Dallas and Chicago make a swap
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2012, 11:20:14 PM »
I wanted value for my Chi-Town boy Toews and i feel i got it and than some...rock on hockeyfreak ...im veryy happy with this deal
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Re: Dallas and Chicago make a swap
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2012, 11:32:53 PM »
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Re: Dallas and Chicago make a swap
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2012, 09:45:21 AM »
dallas gets
Jonathan Toews, $6.3m (2014-2015)
Martin Biron, $0.9m (2011-2012) - Contract Expires 8/4/2012
2012 second Chicago

Chicago gets
2012 1st dallas
2012 round 3 dallas
C - Evgeny Grachev, N/C, (32 Games)
Danny Cleary, $2.8m (2012-2013)
Stephen Weiss, $3.1m (2012-2013)
Johnny Oduya, $0.3m (2012-2013)
Matt Gilroy, $1.4m (2012-2013)

I'm very happy to get this move done. I move some good players and a first rounder but get one of my personal favorites Towes back!!. Thanks for the smooth deal. :toast: :toast:

there's a problem with this deal...

1. it's not clear which draft picks are being dealt (:DAL-NHL: has x2 1st rounders + x2 3rd rounders).

2. i'm on trade committee, Sizz's role is to tie-break or make a call, unfortunately - the clock's running on :DAL-NHL:'s pick @ 24th overall.
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Re: Dallas and Chicago make a swap
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2012, 11:49:09 AM »
:veto: wait that's kinda small...

as a regular TC member...


i've looked at this deal and after checking values of players, i'm going to cast a VETO vote.

players values:
10-11 / 11-12 = player


to :DAL-NHL:  cap hit = 7.2m ... 2 players
90 / 110 = biron
195 / 145 = toews

to :CHI-NHL:  cap hit = 8.1m ... 5 players
1 / 12 = grachev
145 / 115 = cleary  lw/rw
116 / 133 = weiss
47 / 52 = oduya
43 / 56 = gilroy

reason:
1. :CHI-NHL: is dealing away good assets and getting back easily replaceable ones in Oduya, Gilroy, even the draft picks are easily replaceable.
2. Cleary's always an IR risk with questionable value (subjective), but old is fact.
3. Grachev is a OK prospect i suppose (totally subjective)

conclusion: Weiss in return for Toews AND a goalie is not a balanced deal.

also, following TC guidelines:
These members are the active trade committee. They are responsible for approving trades.
Takes 3 approvals for the trade to be confirmed.
They are also responsible for:
- Commenting on trades  :judge: not clear what each team wants from the deal really?
- Deciding who won/who lost  :judge: :DAL-NHL: by landslide IMO
- The fairness of the trade  :judge: not fair to :CHI-NHL
- Whether the trade was legit or set up  :judge: legit trade
- Whether the trade would be a detriment to that franchise or the league.  :judge: :judge: detrimental to :CHI-NHL: losing key team assets once again and getting "bag o pucks"

the last reason alone allows me to veto the deal outright as commish, but i'll wait for other TC members to vote.

bottomline: this trade is detrimental to :CHI-NHL: as they're replacing valuable assets with easily replaced players/positions/picks. i recommend you 2 start reworking this trade.
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Re: Dallas and Chicago make a swap
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2012, 12:18:48 PM »
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Re: Dallas and Chicago make a swap
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2012, 12:49:33 PM »
FNHL Draft Clock PAUSED 3hrs until 14h42 ET 7/28  to allow more time for TC to vote.

note: if there are not enough TC votes by that time, then Dallas's 28th pick overall will be auto-picked (Mark Jankowski, C, CGY)
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Re: Dallas and Chicago make a swap
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2012, 05:15:29 PM »
dallas gets
Jonathan Toews, $6.3m (2014-2015)
Martin Biron, $0.9m (2011-2012) - Contract Expires 8/4/2012
2012 second Chicago

Chicago gets
2012 1st dallas
2012 round 3 dallas
C - Evgeny Grachev, N/C, (32 Games)
Danny Cleary, $2.8m (2012-2013)
Stephen Weiss, $3.1m (2012-2013)
Johnny Oduya, $0.3m (2012-2013)
Matt Gilroy, $1.4m (2012-2013)
...

as the above highlighted :DAL-NHL: draft (#28 of Rd1) pick has been used, this trade is now void.

please rework the deal + resubmit. :judge:
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Re: Dallas and Chicago make a swap
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2012, 05:17:22 PM »
thread closed.

it will be left posted on the main transactions board for a few days, then filed in "Invalid Transactions".

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Re: Dallas and Chicago make a swap
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2012, 03:44:29 PM »
thread is unlocked. trade commmite please vote so justice can be completed fairly.
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