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Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2012, 11:02:59 PM »
Let's include Corey's mention of relievers not receiving compensation - if that is indeed not the case.
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Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2012, 11:12:06 PM »
Let's include Corey's mention of relievers not receiving compensation - if that is indeed not the case.

A free agent will be subject to compensation if  his former Club offers him a
guaranteed one-year contract with a salary equal to the average salary of the
125-highest paid Players from the prior season.  The offer must be made at the
end of the five-day free agent “quiet period,” and the Player will have seven days
to accept the offer.

If our goal is to follow the MLB draft to a tee then it's possible that a RP would still yield a draft pick.
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Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2012, 11:14:37 PM »
We had a rule in place that you needed to bid on your RFA's in order to receive comepnsation. Maybe we should bring that rule back, to emulate the "extension" clause in the new set of MLB rules.
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Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2012, 11:16:06 PM »
Re: relief pitchers...wait til the season starts to sign them. If you are really jonesing for them, then yes they should count as all other players do
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Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2012, 11:19:11 PM »
We had a rule in place that you needed to bid on your RFA's in order to receive comepnsation. Maybe we should bring that rule back, to emulate the "extension" clause in the new set of MLB rules.

Don't know how to describe this so will just give an example of why I dont like the bid on your own RFA rule:

Luis Ayala ends the season with LAD and is the no.70 RP in the game. He goes to FA and :CIN: bids 1M at 12:01am. :LAD: would then need to place a bid higher than 1M to qualify for compensation when in reality a 1M bid would be the market value bid.
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Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2012, 11:36:46 PM »
Don't know how to describe this so will just give an example of why I dont like the bid on your own RFA rule:

Luis Ayala ends the season with LAD and is the no.70 RP in the game. He goes to FA and :CIN: bids 1M at 12:01am. :LAD: would then need to place a bid higher than 1M to qualify for compensation when in reality a 1M bid would be the market value bid.

Have the same concerns.   :iatp:
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Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2012, 01:47:14 PM »
The RFA's would have to be posted by some sort of governing body as opposed to the former owning team throwing out the opening bid. I had that issue with our original bidding process. Unless you guys can figure out a way to negotiate with someone who doesn't exist.
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Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2012, 02:29:53 PM »
Again the big picture question is, what's the overall direction for FGM draft? Try to emulate MLB, or go with something different?
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Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2012, 04:33:05 PM »
The overall point of this league has been to emulate MLB as best as we can. I would also like to add to sit on changing this until 2014 goes against that. I'm sure the real life Mets were hoping to get a pretty solid draft pick for Jose Reyes, but the CBA was agreed upon, and well they did not. If we are to do this, then it must take hold for the 2013 entry draft.

As far as putting a limit on spending, this goes back to my argument from day 1. We are all constrained by our 40 man roster salary cap, which does not emulate MLB. What teams spend on their 40 man roster is different than what they spend on their draft signings and player development. IMO we should all get 10 mil to play with for the draft and that's that. I don't think it should come out of our salary cap, and never have, since the two are totally different from a business aspect of running a baseball team.

I agree with giving teams an overall cap, but I do not agree with the fact that we should have to spend from our cap on draft picks. I have also been a proponent of doing away with signing bonuses and just letting GMs draft as they see fit, without the constraints of signing bonuses. I am also of the belief that if they don't sign with a team, we should not be able to sign them.  We are no longer in the days when someone takes Matt Bush because he is a more affordable than the better player that could be drafted behind him. Plus we don't have owners that we have to haggle with. Shooter would have never been able to do what he did if Angelos was hovering over him. Just saying.
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Re: 2014 Draft / Compensation
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2012, 05:09:22 PM »
My proposal:

Draft length: still 10 rounds
Signing bonus: no. Punishes small market team too much.
Draft pick trading: yes
Compensation draft picks: only for the top 125 overall players by points scored
Competitive balance draft: yes


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