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FNHL Minimum Player Salary: Change needed for 2018-19?

No - keep min. at $0.2m the way it's been since 2010.
3 (13.6%)
Yes - understand it's a necessary cost adjustment in a salary cap league. $0.6m new min.
19 (86.4%)

Total Members Voted: 22

Voting closed: October 04, 2017, 03:03:48 PM

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Re: 2018-19 FNHL Minimum Skater Salary: $0.6m
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2017, 10:29:33 PM »
My Chicago Blackhawks currently have 5 players with the league minimum contract:

Jay Beagle, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Gabriel Dumont, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Tyler Ennis, $0.2m (2017-2019)
Matt Bartkowski, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Josh Manson, $0.2m (2016-2018)

Most will earn extensions well over that amount.

As for finding and signing Free Agent prospects, the cost of $0.2 Million vs $0.6m seems insignificant. Of course, if a team were to buy out said player, the residual cost would be a small but more noticeable cost to carry at which point a team would be wise to trade said play or sign Free Agents more carefully which I believe is part of the goal of this exercise.

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Re: 2018-19 FNHL Minimum Skater Salary: $0.6m
« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2017, 10:01:52 AM »
Owners can vote. Majority rules. Voting open 14 days. Each team counts for 1 vote. If you own more than 1 team, then you have more say.

Update on voting after 3 days:

4 NOs - leave min. salary at 0.2m (since 2010)
18 YES - understand necessary update of min. salary 0.6m (starting 2018-19)


15 owners or 22 teams have voted.
9 more teams have yet to vote.
This factors in owners with multiple teams voting the same for all their teams.


Voting will remain open for 11 more days so get your votes in and have a say!
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Re: 2018-19 FNHL Minimum Skater Salary: $0.6m
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2017, 02:29:28 PM »
Habs have 3 min wage players this year.

Not going to be a big dent to our wallet afterall even beyond this season. That's good news in Montreal.
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Re: 2018-19 FNHL Minimum Skater Salary: $0.6m
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2017, 12:06:07 PM »
Both my Pens and Stars have 8 players each making less than $0.6m ... seems like a high number, but not sure.

Either way, I voted yes because it gets us closer to the NHL league minimum, which to me makes sense, as our salary cap ceiling follows that of the NHL. And yes, I realize we can't completely mimic the NHL ... this is a fantasy league after all ... but this seems to fit.

I'm glad we had the opportunity to vote as well. Thanks!
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Re: 2018-19 FNHL Minimum Skater Salary: $0.6m
« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2017, 02:34:30 PM »
Agree with what MCrow said.

It's good to have the opportunity to vote on a change that impacts cap in a cap league. I also voted Yes given how the 0.2m min salary seemed low given the league's MO to mirror all things good about the NHL.
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Re: 2018-19 FNHL Minimum Skater Salary: $0.6m
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2017, 12:42:17 PM »
Both my Pens and Stars have 8 players each making less than $0.6m ... seems like a high number, but not sure.

Either way, I voted yes because it gets us closer to the NHL league minimum, which to me makes sense, as our salary cap ceiling follows that of the NHL. And yes, I realize we can't completely mimic the NHL ... this is a fantasy league after all ... but this seems to fit.

I'm glad we had the opportunity to vote as well. Thanks!

Taking it like a man! Good feedback man.
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Re: 2018-19 FNHL Minimum Skater Salary: $0.6m
« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2017, 12:45:01 PM »
Inflation.
Greedy fantasy players.
Overly wealthy but competitive FNHL owners.

All of the above have contributed to the increase in the league's minimum salary for skaters starting in 2018-19. All new minimum salaries signed for 2018-19 will reflect this and everyone with a $0.2m salary if not extended will be grandfathered as $0.2m.


NOTE: This decision has been undertaken after a lot of discussion with PR in the backroom with we keep the ice cold beer and other fun things to keep commissioners amused.



With 24hrs to vote the current score is

24 teams YES - agree to increase min salary from 0.2 to 0.6m for 2018-19
4 teams NO - want to keep/maintain the original 2010-11 FNHL min salary of 0.2m
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Re: 2018-19 FNHL Minimum Skater Salary: $0.6m
« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2017, 04:51:54 PM »
With 24hrs to vote the current score is

24 teams YES - agree to increase min salary from 0.2 to 0.6m for 2018-19
4 teams NO - want to keep/maintain the original 2010-11 FNHL min salary of 0.2m

Update with less than 24hrs til closing

With 24hrs to vote the current score is

25 teams YES - agree to increase min salary from 0.2 to 0.6m for 2018-19
4 teams NO - want to keep/maintain the original 2010-11 FNHL min salary of 0.2m
2 team have yet to vote!
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Re: 2018-19 FNHL Minimum Skater Salary: $0.6m
« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2017, 02:24:38 PM »
One NO voter writes

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I probably would have voted.6m if not for reading other posts... and the pole wording seems a bit bias. Since it's nominal impact I say leave it so we see more strategic play and player movement towards the deadline.

What was biased in the wording. Pl clarify.

As plain as day!
If you voted NO - you wanted to keep the min salary cost at 2010 levels.
If you voted YES - you understand the need to keep the min. at current levels since we mirror the NHL's ceiling & floor.

In fact, the 2010 # is low. NHL's min salary was 500K in 2010-11.
http://www.puckreport.com/2009/07/nhl-minimum-wage-maximum-wage-by-year.html

Now lets see how many of the follower leagues copy the bump up. LOL
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Re: 2018-19 FNHL Minimum Skater Salary: $0.6m
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2017, 04:02:04 PM »
One NO voter writes

What was biased in the wording. Pl clarify.

As plain as day!
If you voted NO - you wanted to keep the min salary cost at 2010 levels.
If you voted YES - you understand the need to keep the min. at current levels since we mirror the NHL's ceiling & floor.

In fact, the 2010 # is low. NHL's min salary was 500K in 2010-11.
http://www.puckreport.com/2009/07/nhl-minimum-wage-maximum-wage-by-year.html

Now lets see how many of the follower leagues copy the bump up. LOL

Vote NO if you're stupid and hate the league
Vote YES if you're a good boy and do what you're told.

I'm still glad I voted no and I'd do it again. I have no problems with the no league minimum and it won't impact my strategy. The most important thing to me is that we had a vote. And as I've said many times, we have a higher roster size than the 23 person NHL. So with the same cap, it makes sense that we had a lower minimum salary.

But anyway, at least this and done an over with. Now we can move on to the real conversation...extension prices...lol
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