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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #141 on: December 03, 2009, 10:53:45 AM »
That scoring system is way out of my league. I believe how you did it is the closest to what we are looking for. And if it was up to me, I dont know a person like you colby that finds info. and researches the info any better then you. So what I read on this Rules Committee Page is the best around for Fantasy Baseball!! And thats another reason, I really enjoy this league!  :thumbsup:

Thanks Chad.  I am looking to hear from M.J., Ben, and Jake.  I am going to try and get Roy here for the action too.
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« Reply #140 on: December 02, 2009, 07:13:38 PM »
That scoring system is way out of my league. I believe how you did it is the closest to what we are looking for. And if it was up to me, I dont know a person like you colby that finds info. and researches the info any better then you. So what I read on this Rules Committee Page is the best around for Fantasy Baseball!! And thats another reason, I really enjoy this league!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #139 on: December 02, 2009, 06:30:50 PM »
you are definatly right! I think you should be grandfather in. So you should have the right with the old ranking. But we need to see if anyone else is under this problem.

I am the only one with an RFA that has to be signed.  I am sure there are some GMs who were waiting to sign players at their prices until after some trade talks, but there is nothing that we can do for them.  Chad, what did you think of the scoring system?
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« Reply #138 on: December 02, 2009, 06:26:23 PM »
you are definatly right! I think you should be grandfather in. So you should have the right with the old ranking. But we need to see if anyone else is under this problem.
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #137 on: December 02, 2009, 06:07:08 PM »
As you may know, you should be reviewing the scoring system on Fantrax.  Now ended up being a good time to do it because Fantrax ranking algorithm changed.

The problem that I personally face is a contract extension that I have to give to Aubrey Huff.  According to the old rankings, I was going to give him $6m.  I traded for this RFA from Baltimore knowing this.  The new rankings say he was the 9th best CI in 2008 (he had a good season) and is due some $14.5m.  I fall into the pending contract extension phase that a few others do, but my situation is a bit unique as I traded for an RFA.  Under the rules, I am forced to sign Huff, but now his value doubled.

We seem to all agree on the pending extensions that they will receive the lower value from each system.  I think I should be allowed to sign Huff to a 1-year $6m deal per the old rankings, but I want to have the scoring finalized first.

As we discussed over PM, Fantrax has already stated there is no way to go back or even view the old rankings.  Options will have to be given to GMs who are involved in pending extensions.
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #136 on: December 02, 2009, 03:08:57 PM »
If you post the latest spreadsheet I'll take a look to see if anything jumps out at me.  You mentioned you upped the hitting stats 150%, I imagine this depreciates pitching statistics/values?

I didn't even base it off of the spreadsheet anymore except that the original spreadsheet was reflecting heavy defensive points because of the 1B bias (1000+ points for Pujols on DEF), so to keep everything in line with Bill James' ratios, I increased the hitting.  This actually kept everything much more balanced between Batting, Fielding, and Pitching no matter which range of players you look at.  You'll be able to view all of the updated scoring on Fantrax.
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« Reply #135 on: December 02, 2009, 02:45:46 PM »
If you post the latest spreadsheet I'll take a look to see if anything jumps out at me.  You mentioned you upped the hitting stats 150%, I imagine this depreciates pitching statistics/values?
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #134 on: December 02, 2009, 12:53:21 PM »
I looked at the top-50 batters per fantasy points per game, and everything looks pretty reasonable except for Joe Mauer.  You'll see Runs Created Per Game in parenthesis.  He is the only batter outside of Pujols that has over 0.9 RC/G.  Why isn't he in the top three?  Mauer hit mostly singles, but it has to be something more than this.  Is it the defensive points that he is losing out on?

Top 50 Batters
25.9 - Pujols, Albert - STL (0.943)
24.9 - Fielder, Prince - MIL (0.859)
24.2 - Teixeira, Mark - NYY (0.816)
24 - Braun, Ryan - MIL  (0.836)
23.8 - Lee, Derrek - CHC  (0.818)
23.8 - Youkilis, Kevin - BOS  (0.804)
23.7 - Utley, Chase - PHI (0.787)
23.6 - Ramirez, Hanley - FLA (0.823)
23.4 - Jones, Garrett - PIT  (0.784)
23.3 - Jeter, Derek - NYY (0.778)
23.3 - Howard, Ryan - PHI (0.771)
23.3 - Votto, Joey - CIN (0.802)
23.2 - Beltran, Carlos - NYM  (0.774)
23.1 - Rodriguez, Alex - NYY (0.759)
23.1 - Suzuki, Ichiro - SEA  (0.778)
22.9 - Choo, Shin-Soo - CLE  (0.745)
22.9 - Gonzalez, Adrian - SD (0.733)
22.8 - McCutchen, Andrew - PIT (0.725)
22.8 - Ramirez, Manny - LAD (0.732)
22.7 - Dunn, Adam - WAS  (0.721)
22.7 - Lind, Adam - TOR (0.758)
22.7 - Bay, Jason - BOS (0.73)
22.6 - Mauer, Joe - MIN (0.916)
22.6 - Cabrera, Miguel - DET (0.756)
22.4 - Holliday, Matt - STL (0.733)
22.4 - Delgado, Carlos - NYM (0.723)
22.3 - Sandoval, Pablo - SF (0.752)
22.3 - Helton, Todd - COL  (0.724)
22.3 - Span, Denard - MIN  (0.683)
22.3 - Reynolds, Mark - ARI  (0.701)
22.2 - Upton, Justin - ARI  (0.727)
22.2 - Pena, Carlos - TB (0.673)
22.2 - Sizemore, Grady - CLE (0.643)
22.2 - Young, Michael - TEX (0.728)
22.1 - Coghlan, Chris - FLA (0.709)
22.1 - Morneau, Justin - MIN (0.69)
22.1 - Branyan, Russell - SEA (0.676)
22.1 - Zimmerman, Ryan - WAS (0.7)
22.1 - Werth, Jayson - PHI  (0.692)
22.1 - Scutaro, Marco - TOR (0.654)
22.1 - Damon, Johnny - NYY (0.697)
22 - Figgins, Chone - LAA (0.659)
22 - Zobrist, Ben - TB  (0.725)
21.9 - Weeks, Rickie - MIL (0.681)
21.9 - Hill, Aaron - TOR  (0.68)
21.9 - Ruiz, Randy - TOR  (0.742)
21.9 - Pedroia, Dustin - BOS (0.668)
21.8 - Roberts, Brian - BAL  (0.67)
21.8 - Berkman, Lance - HOU  (0.676)
21.8 - Tulowitzki, Troy - COL (0.703)
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #133 on: December 02, 2009, 12:40:13 PM »
I updated the scoring system, and I ended up tweaking the defensive settings and multiplying all of the batting stats by 150%, so everything on the hitters side stayed in Bill James fashion with the pitchers.  I believe if you view all hitters, you will see just their batting stats as field stats apply on a per-position basis.  One thing I had to do was make the catcher fielding stats as dry as the outfield thanks to the likes of Victor Martinez (1B), Pablo Sandoval (3B), and Kurt Suzuku (DH). 

I am still doing some slight tweaks as we speak.  You'll see Mauer and A-Rod lower than expected, but keep in mind that this is points-based, so their time on the DL means they earned 0 points in such periods.  A useful sorting stat is the Fantasy Points per Game.  I would like everyone on the RC look for oddities and outliers and give comments on how this looks.  We may always be tweaking this year-to-year, but I am not worried about that now so much as egregious differences in points.
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #132 on: December 02, 2009, 08:28:30 AM »
Agreed.  No one anticipated this, so any gain/loss from this is completely by chance and should be considered part of the game (not like market conditions don't change in MLB).  No special clause to help owners that might need to pay more now, no money back for those who would have saved if they waited.

I completely agree except that the people with the pending extensions will receive the better choice since they fell in limbo.

Now, with OF defensive statistics... I say we just assign a constant amount for each inning they play on defense (if that is available) or game played and then add for assists and subtract for errors.

Utility will have no defense.  I'll have to test this out on my select group which includes players such as Albert Pujols (awesome hitter, great defense), Raul Ibanez (good hitter, poor defense) and Pedro Feliz (poor hitter, solid defense).
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