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Possible Rule Amendment - RFAs
« on: January 06, 2011, 07:42:34 PM »
As several members of this league have been discussing recently here http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=14237.0, the possibility of abolishing RFAs. What this rule would entail, more or less, is just making all Free Agents, either A or B, and getting rid of the right to match. This would be more similar to how MLB works. RFA, is more of an NFL thing. The time is now for you GMs to voice your opinion on said matter.
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Re: Possible Rule Amendment - RFAs
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 08:28:08 PM »
Either A, B, or nothing is what Dan meant! :taco:
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 08:44:20 PM »
As several members of this league have been discussing recently here http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=14237.0, the possibility of abolishing RFAs. What this rule would entail, more or less, is just making all Free Agents, either A or B, and getting rid of the right to match. This would be more similar to how MLB works. RFA, is more of an NFL thing. The time is now for you GMs to voice your opinion on said matter.

In MLB, when a player is offered arbitration does the team have the right to match any competing offers?
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 08:47:11 PM »
I believe either player goes to arbitration or they don't. They are under team control regardless. Either a player works out a contract that satisfies both parties or they go to arbitration, and that settles what the team owes them. That is why they always talk about the raise through arbitration...
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2011, 09:08:57 PM »
I believe either player goes to arbitration or they don't. They are under team control regardless. Either a player works out a contract that satisfies both parties or they go to arbitration, and that settles what the team owes them. That is why they always talk about the raise through arbitration...

For players with 6 and fewer years of experience, yes.  But draft pick compensation comes from when a team offers a player arbitration and they leave...
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Re: Possible Rule Amendment - RFAs
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2011, 09:23:56 PM »
I believe either player goes to arbitration or they don't. They are under team control regardless. Either a player works out a contract that satisfies both parties or they go to arbitration, and that settles what the team owes them. That is why they always talk about the raise through arbitration...

Arbitration = market value = our extension annual salaries
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2011, 09:40:02 PM »
For players with 6 and fewer years of experience, yes.  But draft pick compensation comes from when a team offers a player arbitration and they leave...

Ben is correct. If a player offered arbitration leaves then the team gets the draft pick compensation. I agree with the change as long we keep draft pick compensation.


In theory either you resign your players immediately or offer them arbitration......which would be like rfa (currently) except you cannot match an offer. you either win him in a bid style or receive compensation (if there a type a or b)
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2011, 11:09:18 PM »
But that's my question - if in MLB they can match, then we should be able to also... we need to check this out.
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 12:35:31 AM »
But that's my question - if in MLB they can match, then we should be able to also... we need to check this out.

mlb cannot match
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Re: Possible Rule Amendment - RFAs
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2011, 02:01:41 PM »
This subject hasn't been tended to in a while, but I would still like to get everyone's opinion on it. I think we have a very good case to discuss here that happened recently with Paul Konerko. The Phils didn't have the money to match the Yanks bid on him. Found out his cost, dumped some salary on Arizona, then re-signed him, after he knew what his contract would be. And Papps, I am not making an example of you, just using the situation as an example, so please do not get offended. Manny Ramirez is another example. My point is why even bid on an RFA? Is this something that we want to continue doing going forward? I think the best bet is to do away with RFA, expand  the numbers for DP compensation, and go with that from next season on. I would like to hear more dialogue in regards to this. If we can come up with a simple way to do arb, I am all for it. But we do have the prospect extension in place, are currently arguing for following year contracts, etc. I think all of these topics lead into one another.
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