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VOTE - Regular Season Tiebreakers
« on: September 13, 2010, 10:40:25 AM »
What should we do about regular season tiebreakers for 2011?  The current system is to use the H2H record with other teams tied with the same record.  This would be suited well if we had multiple matches against other teams.  I feel that fantasy points scored in the regular season would be a much better tiebreaker and it is a reasonable simplification of the MLB tiebreaker system for our league.
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Re: VOTE - Regular Season Tiebreakers
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2010, 05:15:48 PM »
I agree with Chad that this needs to be changed to fantasy points scored.
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Re: VOTE - Regular Season Tiebreakers
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2010, 03:19:51 PM »
I understand the reason why noone wants to do head to head is becuz you dont play enough games head to head wise. Based on a 23 game schedule...if its ok and you give me a few days, I would like to draw up a custom schedule, focusing on division play. It can be done, and can be very effective if done correctly. I want to keep this league as close to real as possible. At the very worst, we could use record against division opponents but head to head is possible. It puts more value to your actual division games and thus will help build rivalries.

Major league tiebreakers are: If two teams are tied, and both are guaranteed in the playoffs then head to head is used. if they split then division record is used next.

If two teams are tied and only one gets in then they play a playoff game. win and your in.

Any opinions on this?
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Re: VOTE - Regular Season Tiebreakers
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2010, 03:39:39 PM »
A customized schedule would work best with the last tiebreaker being fantasy points scored.  The best way to do it would be to have certain weeks noted as division weeks.  This won't be perfect with the four five-team divisions, but the odd team out in each of those divisions can play each other.  We could reserve two to three weeks for inter-league play around the same time that MLB has its inter-league play.
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Re: VOTE - Regular Season Tiebreakers
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2010, 03:42:20 PM »
Im working on it as we speak. Ill get an example done hopefully before i leave work. Depending on if i get busy.
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Re: VOTE - Regular Season Tiebreakers
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2010, 03:57:53 PM »
I think the schedule should be similar to the MLB schedule.  Maybe one game against each team in the league and two games against the division teams.
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Re: VOTE - Regular Season Tiebreakers
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2010, 04:02:09 PM »
Here is what i got so far, it very just a little bit from this. week 10 and 11 are interleague. you will play each div team twice. then everyone once in ur conference. it will vary just a tad, like the nl central will not play one team in the nl and the al west might play each other 3 times instead of 2. but im gona make it as real as possible.

and we will start and end the season with division games
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Re: VOTE - Regular Season Tiebreakers
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2010, 07:08:44 PM »
I think Fantrax may let you to split a week into two scoring periods. That may allow more flexibility in schedule customization. i.e- You could play division opponents more often thus H2H would be more valuable.
It just seems to me that this decision goes hand-in hand with the elimination/alteration of the defensive scoring and SP limitations currently being discussed. In other words, a team can load up on SP/RP and rack up a lot of points (unrealistic in my point of view). H2H is is the standard (1st) tie-breaker in most, if not all, of the major sports played.
My vote goes to H2H
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Re: VOTE - Regular Season Tiebreakers
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2010, 07:25:03 PM »
I think Fantrax may let you to split a week into two scoring periods. That may allow more flexibility in schedule customization. i.e- You could play division opponents more often thus H2H would be more valuable.
It just seems to me that this decision goes hand-in hand with the elimination/alteration of the defensive scoring and SP limitations currently being discussed. In other words, a team can load up on SP/RP and rack up a lot of points (unrealistic in my point of view). H2H is is the standard (1st) tie-breaker in most, if not all, of the major sports played.
My vote goes to H2H

We discussed a shorter period for a 'game', but decided it wouldn't be fair as the outcome would be too dependent on MLB schedules (one FGM team might have players with 2 games for their players, another has 3, and it would be even more exaggerated for pitchers).
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Re: VOTE - Regular Season Tiebreakers
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2010, 07:25:39 PM »
Below is an example of a schedule. I have completed all American league schedules. weeks 10-16 are the weeks will interleague play will occur. The easiest and best way would be to match up divisions. The AL West plays there division opponents 3 teams each, giving them 9 divisions games, while the other two AL divisions play 8. The NL Central would have to match with the AL west when we cross for interleague, since they would be playing more division games. If you want to see more examples let me know, but we can definaly make this work with customized schedules. As you notice the Tigers play all divisions teams twice. Then all other AL opponents once. With a head to head tiebreaker you must sweep to win, your better because you beat them. The second tiebreaker could be points or divisional record. Any thoughts?

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