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How is Jamey Carroll the 8th best OF in the game?
« on: August 29, 2010, 11:32:57 AM »
Jerry Hairston is the 12 best OF. There is something wrong with our scoring system...
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Re: How is Jamey Carroll the 8th best OF in the game?
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2010, 01:24:32 PM »
They are only worth that much if they are put in the outfield because of defensive stats.
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Re: How is Jamey Carroll the 8th best OF in the game?
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2010, 08:20:31 PM »
So if BSX uses Carroll exclusive as an OF, then that's how many pts he'd get?
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Re: How is Jamey Carroll the 8th best OF in the game?
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2010, 09:13:45 PM »
So if BSX uses Carroll exclusive as an OF, then that's how many pts he'd get?

Correct... it is a way to cheat the system.  Honestly, the addition of defense into our scoring system hasn't worked as well as expected.  The defensive stats are the reason position players cannot change positions (non-Utility) throughout the week.
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Re: How is Jamey Carroll the 8th best OF in the game?
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2010, 12:01:09 PM »
Anyway to change the eligibility requirements so that players like Carroll only qualify for 1 position?
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Re: How is Jamey Carroll the 8th best OF in the game?
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2010, 12:07:13 PM »
Anyway to change the eligibility requirements so that players like Carroll only qualify for 1 position?

I would rather take defense out of the equation.  It appears to have caused more problems than it is worth.
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Re: How is Jamey Carroll the 8th best OF in the game?
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2010, 12:19:51 PM »
I would rather take defense out of the equation.  It appears to have caused more problems than it is worth.

What are the minimum games played to qualify at a position, Colb?  This might be an easy fix, by just upping the minimum games played to qualify.
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Re: How is Jamey Carroll the 8th best OF in the game?
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2010, 12:32:50 PM »
What are the minimum games played to qualify at a position, Colb?  This might be an easy fix, by just upping the minimum games played to qualify.

    *  Games needed from previous season for a player to qualify at a hitting position : 20
    * Games needed from current season for a player to qualify at a hitting position: 5
    * Starts needed from previous season for a player to qualify as a starter : 5
    * Starts needed from current season for a player to qualify as a starter : 5
    * Relief appearances needed from previous season for a player to qualify as a reliever : 5
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    * Note: If a player does not qualify for any positions based on the above selections, he will qualify at the position(s) played most in the previous season. If he did not play at all last season, then the default position(s) will be used.
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Re: How is Jamey Carroll the 8th best OF in the game?
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2010, 12:49:51 PM »
    *  Games needed from previous season for a player to qualify at a hitting position : 20
    * Games needed from current season for a player to qualify at a hitting position: 5
    * Starts needed from previous season for a player to qualify as a starter : 5
    * Starts needed from current season for a player to qualify as a starter : 5
    * Relief appearances needed from previous season for a player to qualify as a reliever : 5
    * Relief appearances needed from current season for a player to qualify as a reliever: 5
    * Use Fantrax's default position(s) even if player qualifies for at least one position based on above criteria: Yes
    * Note: If a player does not qualify for any positions based on the above selections, he will qualify at the position(s) played most in the previous season. If he did not play at all last season, then the default position(s) will be used.

From a hitting perspective, I think it's easy enough to simply up the minimum games played, to a number that basically makes it so that a player's primary position is the only position he really qualifies for.  The prior season's game limit could be upped to 54 (1/3 of a player's games, if he was to play 162 games), and a current season's could be the same, or very close to within that number.  40 perhaps.

I'm not sure if the pitching really needs anything done to it.  However, teams that have starters who qualify for RP definitely have an advantage, so maybe that minimum requirement should be upped also.
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Re: How is Jamey Carroll the 8th best OF in the game?
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2010, 12:58:02 PM »
We will need to put in a weekly innings limit for next season.
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