Scoring Categories

[lp815]

I could construct a spreadsheet to transform the overall H2H standings into a divisional layout with GB listed.  It's too much work to calculate the divisional W-L record.  A custom schedule can easily be made to put more emphasis on divisional play.

I agree, a divisional W-L is a bit too much work.  But with an emphasis on divisional play in the H2H schedule, I think that would still bring divisions as the front runner of looking at standings.  I believe me and you are on the same page.   :koolaid:

[Canada8999]

I'm in for any of the above options re: H2H and Divisions...

[Canada8999]

The intention of this game was to measure individual players' success independent of their teammates.  With that said, QS and NS2 cannot be considered.  I am thinking of two more metrics though...

Win Shares - Ranges from 0 to 1 over 9 innings
Runs Allowed - Opposite of Runs Created for pitchers

Runs Allowed is a good category, but we already have 2 ratio's and this is a negative counting stat - we need a positive counting stat to go with K/BB and FIP to give incentive for more playing time rather than a deterrent.

How does Fantrax calculate Win Shares for pitchers (it's not in their statistics glossary)?  This might be a good positive counting category if the formula is simple enough for everyone to understand.

Another simple category to balance the ratios is IP... with 30 teams we may see much less of the streaming/chasing IP effect since teams won't have more than 5-6 starters.  While it's a boring statistic, every team looks for innings eaters and this could help bring that effect to our league.

[Colby]

I favor RA, IP, WHIP, FIP, K/BB for pitching with the premise, as always, that weight of ratios equals weight of countable stats.

[Canada8999]

I favor RA, IP, WHIP, FIP, K/BB for pitching with the premise, as always, that weight of ratios equals weight of countable stats.

I'd be on board with these if either
A) we weight IP a little more since it is the only category that rewards playing time,
or B) we have an IP minimum that enforces a realistic amount of playing time

[Dan Wood]

If somebody wouldn't mind bringing summing up where we are it with scoring, I would really appreciate that and I can throw my two cents in... I am however behind using FIP for pitching. I also think innings should be used, otherwise someone could plug in an RP who threw 8 inning all year, and still score better than someone who had a mediocre starter in all year.

I don't think we should use wins, because wins aren't really reliant on the pitcher himself. It relies on his bullpen, defense, offense etc. Also I don't think saves is a worthwhile category, since all teams save relatively the same amount of games, and since we have 30 teams, there won't be too many available saves outside of your own organization. But again to contradict myself, there is no reason why Francisco Cordero should make 11 million a year if saves aren't involved. I would be better off cutting him and picking up some scrub at 500K.

Also, just a quick question, is there a way to increase your cap? Say by winning? If you make the playoffs you get an extra 2 million or something along those lines? Just thinking out loud. Kind of like what MLB the Show does when you have a successful season.

[Colby]

This is why Fantrax is the official league service for MLFB....

When your league decides which new scoring categories you want, let us know the exact formula for each one and we should be able to add them.

Thanks,
Neil
The Fantrax Team

[Canada8999]

Another option for a counting stat would be K-BB (replacing K/BB).

K-BB, RA, FIP

[Colby]

Another option for a counting stat would be K-BB (replacing K/BB).

K-BB, RA, FIP

That is such a simple solution, and it does not favor one type of pitcher over another (which is why I am against K's or K/9) with the inclusion of walks.  Anyways, Fantrax said that may create some stats as permanent options for Fantrax, so I think we should take advantage of this opportunity.  :thumbsup:

[mjmezzetti]

Why isn't the K/BB ratio weighted by innings pitched?  That would be the proper way to use this statistic... For instance the Dodgers team K/BB ratio would be much more heavily weighted by Billingsley's ratio over Hong-Chih Kuo.  This would be a more accurate depiction of quality of team pitching.  Why include RA when we have FIP?  FIP is a more accurate statistic measuring essentially the same thing.