Moneyball Q&A

[Jon]

Post any questions you may have and someone will give an answer

[SeaDogs]

League settings indicate a maximum IP limit of 78 per scoring period. On the last day of the scoring period I am at 72 IP. One of my relievers throws 4 innings of mop-up. One of my starters gets sent out on 4 days rest and tosses  5 innings. This puts me over the 78 IP limit.

How is this penalty applied?

Under minor league roster eligibility is the following statement:

"If a player in the minors exceeds the limit, they can remain there indefinitely"

The language surrounding this text suggests that players may remain on the minor league roster after they have exceeded rookie eligibility.

Request clarification / confirmation on when a rookie must be a forced called up.

Thank You

[Jon]

It?s like any other league on Fantrax that as these settings.  Once you hit the inninings pitched in a week you will not accrue any points.  Fantrax will show that on your team page that you?ve reached maximum innings pitched

[Rob]

League settings indicate a maximum IP limit of 78 per scoring period. On the last day of the scoring period I am at 72 IP. One of my relievers throws 4 innings of mop-up. One of my starters gets sent out on 4 days rest and tosses  5 innings. This puts me over the 78 IP limit.

How is this penalty applied?

Under minor league roster eligibility is the following statement:

"If a player in the minors exceeds the limit, they can remain there indefinitely"

The language surrounding this text suggests that players may remain on the minor league roster after they have exceeded rookie eligibility.

Request clarification / confirmation on when a rookie must be a forced called up.

Thank You

Yup, as Jon said the team just stops accruing stats once you hit the limit.

On your second question.  A player might hit the 50gp/40ip threshold while in your Minor league roster.  You are not required to call up a player like this.  You can leave him there.  Once you do call him up, he can't be sent back down.  Fantrax will tell you your roster is illegal in this situation, but we've set it up so there's no penalty - you won't stop accruing stats.

There's certain strategy to doing this - you might not want him on your MLB roster until he pans out.  Some prospects take longer than others to hit their stride in the MLB.  Also, rebuilding teams can stash young talent to keep from having to start on their MLB roster and accrue stats that do them no good competitively, yet drive down their draft position.  A form of legal tanking.  It's helpful to have this mechanism in a deep dynasty league like this.  We'll have rosters that need TLC over the years and GM's that drop out.  We need new GM's that take over teams in the future to have tools to rebuild their rosters.  Otherwise league balance will get wonky.

[Rob]

Correction - it won't tell you your roster is illegal, just a roster alert at the top telling you what players are over the limit.

[Jon]

Just pay attention to your roster.  Fantrax will tell you what you need to do.  You?re asking great questions.  Keep em coming

[SeaDogs]

Sorry to beat a dead horse here, and maybe I need another gallon of coffee.

If I'm under the IP limit before the start of the last game,,,

At this point it seems reasonable that I would not receive notification of exceeding any limits.

Are you guys saying no pitching points will accrue that day if I end up exceeding the IP cap?
Perhaps I started the day with 49, 60, or 77. But ultimately pass the cap during the last day. Or will the system record all point if under the limit at roster time?  There is actually a lot of conflicting answers floating around.

It matters because if you are under prior to the last lineup change, and the system records that days points, one could feasibly pile on a stack of pitchers.

If it doesn't, how would the system decide which points to ignore? It's entirely possible you could enter the final day of the scoring period with 49 points and have to leave 29 innings on the table for fear of going over the cap.

Any further insight is appreciated - this will be my last question on the matter for fear of a mental breakdown:)

Thanks,

[Rob]

Here's how the rule is stated on Fantrax:

All hitters or pitchers, depending on the scoring category exceeded, will stop accumulating stats for the rest of the scoring period. If the max has not been met or exceeded at the beginning of a day, stats will accumulate throughout that entire day, even if the max is exceeded. Note that ALL pitchers includes both SP and RP. For example, if a max is exceeded for Relief Appearances, stats will stop accumulating lost for the scoring period for Relief Pitchers (RP) as well as Starting Pitchers (SP).

So if you have any IP left at the start of the day, you'll get stats from all pitchers that day. 

[Jon]

Sorry to beat a dead horse here, and maybe I need another gallon of coffee.

If I'm under the IP limit before the start of the last game,,,

At this point it seems reasonable that I would not receive notification of exceeding any limits.

Are you guys saying no pitching points will accrue that day if I end up exceeding the IP cap?
Perhaps I started the day with 49, 60, or 77. But ultimately pass the cap during the last day. Or will the system record all point if under the limit at roster time?  There is actually a lot of conflicting answers floating around.

It matters because if you are under prior to the last lineup change, and the system records that days points, one could feasibly pile on a stack of pitchers.

If it doesn't, how would the system decide which points to ignore? It's entirely possible you could enter the final day of the scoring period with 49 points and have to leave 29 innings on the table for fear of going over the cap.

Any further insight is appreciated - this will be my last question on the matter for fear of a mental breakdown:)

Thanks,

From my experience because it is live scoring as soon as your player hits the limit you stop receiving points.  That is based on my experience with Fantrax Live scoring

[Rob]

More context:

IMPORTANT NOTE: If and when any Maximum is met, all stats will count for all players for the entire day on which the Maximum is met. Therefore, it is very possible for any Maximum you set to be exceeded without penalty. If you want to disallow those extra stats above the maximum, you can either manually override any player's stats or team's scores via Commissioner Options, or you can retroactively remove the player(s) that obtained stats past the maximum(s).

We won't be making any manual adustments.