Something to Think About for Released Players

[MillerTime]

Read my last proposal again.  I simply proposed that we limit the release of high-priced players.  Interested teams would then have the cap room to make a fair market bid in the off-season.  Teams could cut such players from 8/22 (FA has ended) to the start oif the regular season.  Is that really such an unfair restriction on rebuilding teams?

We should just limit it from the other direction, that player can not be signed until FA starts.  If AROD goes to jail tomorrow for five years, more of an NFL scenario, for his role in gambling ring, we can't say Corey can't drop him.  I don't think that we should control any team from dropping someone, we just restrict the ability for a new team to pay under market value for such a player. 

Proposal any player making more than $15m in a year and dropped must be resigned to the same contract, if signed.  If not the player would remain in the pool until FA comes along after the season.

It is a good point, just need to limit what your point is, not restrict a GM from a legal action.  Just my opinion. 

[h4cheng]

We should just limit it from the other direction, that player can not be signed until FA starts.  If AROD goes to jail tomorrow for five years, more of an NFL scenario, for his role in gambling ring, we can't say Corey can't drop him.  I don't think that we should control any team from dropping someone, we just restrict the ability for a new team to pay under market value for such a player. 

Proposal any player making more than $15m in a year and dropped must be resigned to the same contract, if signed.  If not the player would remain in the pool until FA comes along after the season.

It is a good point, just need to limit what your point is, not restrict a GM from a legal action.  Just my opinion.

I like the direction this is going. Instead of picking the arbitrary 15M, how about this: any player must be signed to a contract greater than or equal to its current market value (using 2 year average like it's done for extensions) after the trading deadline?

[joeshmoe]

I like the direction this is going. Instead of picking the arbitrary 15M, how about this: any player must be signed to a contract greater than or equal to its current market value (using 2 year average like it's done for extensions) after the trading deadline?

Except some players would be over payed for their services.  We can't regulate down to the nth degree. 

[rcankosy]

We should just limit it from the other direction, that player can not be signed until FA starts.  If AROD goes to jail tomorrow for five years, more of an NFL scenario, for his role in gambling ring, we can't say Corey can't drop him.  I don't think that we should control any team from dropping someone, we just restrict the ability for a new team to pay under market value for such a player. 

Proposal any player making more than $15m in a year and dropped must be resigned to the same contract, if signed.  If not the player would remain in the pool until FA comes along after the season.

It is a good point, just need to limit what your point is, not restrict a GM from a legal action.  Just my opinion.

I like the first half of the proposal above, but I think the second half is not necessary.  I propose that teams can cut players at any time, but players making more than 15m can not be signed until the off-season.  That way the free market would determine their salary, and we would not need additional rules governing how much they can be signed for.  I have no problem if someone like A-Rod is signed for 5m in the off-season, because at least the high cap teams would be making a choice rather than be limited by the cap during the season after they have already committed most of their available cap space to other free agents signings.  It doesn't seem fair to ask teams to stash cap space just in case such players are cut during the season, because they would not be maximizing their cap dollars.

[Colby]

I don't like the idea of preventing the release of players or restricting FA.  This may be a point at which we have to allow cases to happen where a once expensive player receives a cheaper contract.  One point to make is that teams will find a way to free up more cap space if they want one of these stars.  If A-Rod was released, and the max cap available to any team was $5m, I would be shocked to see a team not push an offer to $10m/year by releasing several prospect contracts and other players.  Waivers adds more chance for a team to release cap space.

[shooter47]

I don't like the idea of preventing the release of players or restricting FA.  This may be a point at which we have to allow cases to happen where a once expensive player receives a cheaper contract.  One point to make is that teams will find a way to free up more cap space if they want one of these stars.  If A-Rod was released, and the max cap available to any team was $5m, I would be shocked to see a team not push an offer to $10m/year by releasing several prospect contracts and other players.  Waivers adds more chance for a team to release cap space.

:iatp:

I am also not in favor of restricting player drops or FA signings.  IMO this punishes teams that have cap room and could use it to make a signing like this. 

[MillerTime]

If I had to vote, I would vote for nothing to be done at all.  If something must be done, it should be from the signing side and not restrict the dropping of players. 

[Brewers GM]

What if we just sync up the cost savings deadline with the FA deadline?  That should avoid the issue without adding any complexity...

[Dan Wood]

What if we just sync up the cost savings deadline with the FA deadline?  That should avoid the issue without adding any complexity...

 :iatp: