Waiver rule might need some tweaking-RC needed

[Dan Wood]

1. yay
2. yay
3. yay

[kungfuwig]

I agree with the 3 above. I just want to clear it up. As of right now, if we put a guy on waivers, then he gets claimed, he either goes to the other team if no trade is made, he goes to the other team without players exchanged, or you can pull him back before 72 hours is up?

[Colby]

1) Yay
2) Yay unless waiver is rescinded
3) YaY

[Dan Wood]

Colby, rescinded by who? IMO claiming someone is like placing a bid on them. Once you do it, you are hand cuffed to it. That is the way it goes in MLB. The team that placed the player on waiver can take the player back if they wish to not lose him.

[kungfuwig]

I agree with dan, if you put a claim on him and your the only one, then no trade is made, the claiming team either has to take the contract and make room or the team that put him on waivers can pull him back. -

[Brewers GM]

I agree that anyone with MLB experience needs to clear waivers to be included in a trade.  The implication is that you can trade minor leaguers that have never played a game freely after the deadline, and you can trade anyone that has cleared waivers or been claimed by the team you're trading with.

If the player is put on waivers, there are one of the following outcomes:
1. No one claims the player
  a. waiving team decides to rescind the waiver and keeps the player
  b. waiving team decides to release the player (following normal release rules)
2. One or more teams claim the player, and the team with the lowest standing is awarded the claim
  a. waiving team decides to rescind the waiver and keeps the player
  b. waiving team agrees to a trade with the claiming team, where all players must be eligible for trade (cleared waivers, been claimed by the team involved, or have no major league experience)
  c. waiving team decides to let the player leave via waivers, claiming team inherits the player and contract (claiming team cannot rescind claim)

This matches MLB's rules and I think this is in line with Dan's post, just wanted to get my thoughts out there since I missed so much.  Sorry for chiming in so late, no real access from work.

Assuming we are all on the same page which seems to be the case, timeline is the next discussion.  The only modification to the current rules is who needs to clear waivers for a trade to be valid, and I would be in favor of implementing the rule immediately.  The reason I think it is ok to deviate from our policy to implement rules only for future reasons (something I am a strong proponent for) is that I don't think anyone has made plans assuming otherwise (please speak up if you did), the league is all very much in agreement on the topic (are there any objections to this change?), and the rule is too ambiguous as is to enforce.

I also definitely agree in restarting all waiver related moves so that everything is clear and the rules are set before we move forward.

[Brewers GM]

If were supporting waiver trades, we need a deadline after which new acquisitions cannot be on the playoff roster - do we already have something for that?

[Colby]

We just need the major league experience caveat added to the rules.  If this was an assumption by the RC then we need it in writing.

[rcankosy]

If were supporting waiver trades, we need a deadline after which new acquisitions cannot be on the playoff roster - do we already have something for that?

I would take a cue from MLB and say that players acquired after August 31 are ineligible for the postseason.

[Brewers GM]

I would take a cue from MLB and say that players acquired after August 31 are ineligible for the postseason.

 :iatp:

We just need the major league experience caveat added to the rules.  If this was an assumption by the RC then we need it in writing.

 :iatp: