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Entry Draft Idea
« on: February 01, 2010, 08:56:30 AM »
Our current system involves doing some type of roto draft (via chat applet with pre-rankings) here at MLFB in the fall.  It may be better to go with a system that supports our slow bid format.  I propose an auction bank for an entry draft where the amount in your bank is based on where you finished the prior year.

Within this proposal, I am also proposing adding 5 spots per year to the EDR until it hits 20 spots in 2012 or 2013.
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Re: Entry Draft Idea
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2010, 07:02:44 PM »
Colby I like that idea. I was also thinking that everyone should have the same amount of money for Prospects and Draft Picks, say 20 mil. I mean think about it. Right now we sign prospects and DPs from our roster budget. In real life MLB teams use a completely different pile of money to do this. Maybe we get something like an additional 20 mil for DPs and FA prospects. That will make people choose a little more wiser that using the contra spread fire method of signing prospect FAs.
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Re: Entry Draft Idea
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2010, 05:32:55 PM »
I do agree, what if a GM is not around for this process, thats a problem!
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Re: Entry Draft Idea
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2010, 05:52:35 PM »
I do agree, what if a GM is not around for this process, thats a problem!

This is why I feel having a slow draft from an auction bank may be the best way.  We could put certain values to each and every "pick" so that everyone's picks would be valid still.
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Re: Entry Draft Idea
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2010, 07:07:58 PM »
How would you do the money situation. Last place would have more then the World Series Champ, right? I think that would be the only way to do this!


But I definatly like what we are doing with the draft this season? It just feels like its more real. So if it was up to me I would see keep what we have!
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Re: Entry Draft Idea
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2010, 08:09:52 PM »
How would you do the money situation. Last place would have more then the World Series Champ, right? I think that would be the only way to do this!


But I definatly like what we are doing with the draft this season? It just feels like its more real. So if it was up to me I would see keep what we have!

The money wouldn't be salaries, but come from a credit bank...
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Re: Entry Draft Idea
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2010, 08:27:54 PM »
An interesting idea, but it does not really mesh well with reality.  Also, it would be a shame to scrap all of the work we put into the current Entry Draft setup to scrap it before we even give it a shot.
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Re: Entry Draft Idea
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2010, 08:29:50 PM »
I do agree, what if a GM is not around for this process, thats a problem!

We do have a plan in place for this:

How Draft Will Be Conducted
 * If a team is not present for the draft / times out, and did not provide a proxy pick, they'll be awarded the next highest ranked player that they can afford.
 * We would need to approve a source for ranking the players and a bonus price list - I suggest we try and consistently use the same source, but update our price list every 2-3 years to ensure it keeps up with MLB suggestions / averages
 * Entry Draft will only have players who are eligible for the real life MLB Entry Draft.
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Re: Entry Draft Idea
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2010, 08:33:32 PM »
Right now we sign prospects and DPs from our roster budget. In real life MLB teams use a completely different pile of money to do this. Maybe we get something like an additional 20 mil for DPs and FA prospects. That will make people choose a little more wiser that using the contra spread fire method of signing prospect FAs.

MLB teams don't necessarily publish their budgets including their farm system, but the money all comes from the same place.  If an MLB team breaks the bank on a big free agent, MLB doesn't give them some money to go pay for draft bonuses...

Our required bonuses based on pre-draft ranking are published in the rules - teams are able to (and encouraged to) review them and plan accordingly to save budget room for the draft.
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Re: Entry Draft Idea
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2010, 10:31:08 PM »
MLB teams don't necessarily publish their budgets including their farm system, but the money all comes from the same place.  If an MLB team breaks the bank on a big free agent, MLB doesn't give them some money to go pay for draft bonuses...

Our required bonuses based on pre-draft ranking are published in the rules - teams are able to (and encouraged to) review them and plan accordingly to save budget room for the draft.


This is very true, that it comes from the same organization. But, MLB teams have been cited time and time again to "putting more money into scouting and drafting"(paraphrasing). We don't have that, we have a set budget of what our teams 40 man roster is. Using Cott's salaries correct? So on your particular team where was the money for Brett Lawrie's signing bonus? Or for me, where was Mike Leake's signing bonus, or whoever the hell they drafted the year before. It isn't there because we are playing with a specific set of numbers, and trying to encompass all aspects of an operational baseball club. Teams set aside a certain amount of money for draft and international signings. So my thought is we should all just have a certain amount of money for the draft, and that is that. And as far as what you responded to my other idea - low market teams going after signability guys, is yes sometimes true but not always. Rays went after Tim Beckham, Nats - Strasburgh, Reds paid 30 mil for Chapman, Twins signed Sano, A's paid Stassi a lot of money for a 4th round pick. So a 40 man roster salary and the spending capabilities or an organization are not the same things. You want to make it more authentic, then each team should have money for the draft that is separate from their 40 man roster budget. Who wants to spend 6 mil on a pick when you can spend 2 mil on an already established prospect? I like Colby's thinking, and I also like just making them people you draft in you designated spot. Thank you, straight to the edr. It makes it simpler that way. I however don't really like the way it stands now, and it is a waste of money for many teams that don't have that much. Myself included. I mean the Marlins and Padres can't even buy a cup of coffee at the moment. I'm all for reality, but the reality is that lower market teams have leveled the playing field in the prospecting market, and the way things stand now, that is not represented.
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