Trade policy report

[bravesfan4]

I think an owner should do what he wants with his team.  Thats the reason why we have a trade council.  If you don't get the guys you want you can always negotiate with the other owner.  Just my two cents.   :bacon:

i agree. If the trade is fair there is no reason he shouldnt be allowed to trade for them.

[Canada8999]

Quite frankly it pisses me off that I didn't even receive an answer to any of the messages I sent and that all the players I inquired about were traded away without any given consideration to what other teams were offering. Even by receiving a simple no I could have sent a different offer that might have been more appealing.

I can understand why this is frustrating and agree in general that as a courtesy he could have responded, and if it were my team I would have tried to listen to all potential buyers.  However, the counter argument is that if your offer was better and/or the best offer made, you probably would have heard back... sometimes if you really want a player you need to come out strong, and I think similar situations probably occur often in sports.

[bravesfan4]

I can understand why this is frustrating and agree in general that as a courtesy he could have responded, and if it were my team I would have tried to listen to all potential buyers.  However, the counter argument is that if your offer was better and/or the best offer made, you probably would have heard back...

:iatp: very well said Ben. I have apologized many times, so far, and the teams that sent interesting competitive offers did hear back.

[MOLI643]

I think an owner should do what he wants with his team.  Thats the reason why we have a trade council.  If you don't get the guys you want you can always negotiate with the other owner.  Just my two cents.   :bacon:

I agree with Papps, why create new rules, this is why we have a trade council.

[guak2005]

Sure Ben that could be the case, but I sent at least three messages: One inquiring, one making a direct offer and one asking him to make a counterproposal if my offer had not been good enough and considering the circumstances under which the GM switch happened it could also have been that he just didn't want to trade with me because he doesn't want the rival of his old team to compete... or it could even be that he had agreed to make the trade before making the team switch.  I'm not saying it is so (and I don't think it is so), but it could be and the fact that that possibility exists alone leads to the proposed rule of not allowing a GM that switches teams to trade with his previous team for at least a month. I agree with Colby that there is a loophole, but that since it requires a third person it is at least a complication that helps to safeguard the league.

[bravesfan4]

Its way simpler than anything you stated Daniel. You dont have any specs that interest me. Your team doesnt have a farm. You have no player that is better than Goldschmidt or Perez.

And you wouldnt have taken Wells or Lackey. If your offer was so good, why dont you send the yanks an offer for Beltran Wells and Lackey. If its so dang awesome, Im sure he will accept it! Ill look for it in the transactions board any minute now because we know ltd is on and ready to deal.

[OUDAN]

Its way simpler than anything you stated Daniel. You dont have any specs that interest me. Your team doesnt have a farm. You have no player that is better than Goldschmidt or Perez

easy to say gold schmidt is going to be a bad man

[Canada8999]

Sure Ben that could be the case, but I sent at least three messages: One inquiring, one making a direct offer and one asking him to make a counterproposal if my offer had not been good enough and considering the circumstances under which the GM switch happened it could also have been that he just didn't want to trade with me because he doesn't want the rival of his old team to compete... or it could even be that he had agreed to make the trade before making the team switch.  I'm not saying it is so (and I don't think it is so), but it could be and the fact that that possibility exists alone leads to the proposed rule of not allowing a GM that switches teams to trade with his previous team for at least a month. I agree with Colby that there is a loophole, but that since it requires a third person it is at least a complication that helps to safeguard the league.

I agree with you, and I say this having made what I thought was a decent offer for Beltran and not hearing back myself.  I just wanted to point out that I know if I had offered Hosmer and Braun, I would have definitely heard... just playing devil's advocate.

I also agree with the idea that trades between an owner and his previous team should be discouraged for a short period of time (perhaps a month is enough?) and the TC should keep this in mind when reviewing such trades, but I don't think we should have an explicit rule.

[Colby]

I guess there should be a rule or it should be allowed.  Discouraging someone from trading for their players works just as much as discouraging managers from bombing teams in basic dynasty leagues to get a better draft position the following year.

[guak2005]

I guess there should be a rule or it should be allowed.  Discouraging someone from trading for their players works just as much as discouraging managers from bombing teams in basic dynasty leagues to get a better draft position the following year.

I agree that discouraging is not good enough. The notion that the TC committee could enforce it without it being written as a rule is interesting, but it would be simpler if the rule actually exists, that way there is no need to discuss the topic again if a similar situation ever arises.