Yanks/O's

[Dan Wood]

Probably won't ever happen again, just saying...

[OUDAN]

Dan just to put my opinion out there i think we should be able to trade picks too

[Dan Wood]

The rules were never changed in the rulebook. Shooter is correct in this matter. The RC has discussed in the past changing the trading of recently drafted players. I believe this year we agreed to make it 6/1 ( no power, not searching the site). Since it has been allowed in the past, and the rules have yet to be changed, I am going to have to suggest the TC value this trade based on the merits of the players involved.

In my personal opinion it is pretty dumb to not allow trading draft picks but allow trading guys who were just drafted. I for one am of the mind that entry draft players should fall into the category of off season acquisitions. I will bring this before the RC, in hopes that it will officially be changed.

In the meantime, please repost the trade this this thread gas gotten too long.
Thanks - Dan

[Corey]

Even last year, this trade would not have been allowed. Draft Picks and FA signings were the same. I had 2 deals last I couldnt do becuz they were Draft Picks. I was told that rule was in place, because since we cant trade picks, it makes it pointless to allow them to be traded after 60 days. They are new additions and new signings that comply with the June 1st deadline.

So I would have to veto because the trade is in violation of a rule that is at least 2 years old.

[shooter47]

Please Read below. As it states June 1st is when draftees can be traded.

That came from a post however the rule book states otherwise.  The rulebook to me is the only thing that matters. What someone said in a post is irrelevant. Bradley and chafin both comply with the 60 day rule.

[Corey]

Please Read below. As it states June 1st is when draftees can be traded.

You may trade players that are under contract starting 10/15...anyone signed between now and 10/15 may not be traded until 6/1 (could be 60 days, but pretty sure it is 6/1). Anyone signed during the last few months of the season is still beholden to the 60 day rule. Anyone recently drafted may not be dealt until that deadline has passed (again a little fuzzy on the date - I need a rule refresher).

The Prince Fielder rule deals specifically with players whose contract expires at the end of a current season. It gives GMs no choice but to sign said player or send them to free agency. Since no date was posted in the official rules, Rob and Colby were nice enough to add 72 hours to the deadline.

RFA has been abolished. If you want someone you now have to bid on them. Should a player have accumulated enough points to merit either A or B status, then the most recent team that said player played for will receive due compensation.

[h4cheng]

    The 60-day no trade ruling is extended to include draftees.

Yep, that's the rule that applies in this situation.

[MillerTime]

Entry Draft Roster (EDR)

    The EDR is a roster of additional players not included on the 40-man roster for each team.  The maximum size of this roster is 15 players.  It will expand to 20 players at the beginning of the 2012 season.
    Only players drafted by the current team are eligible for the EDR, players acquired via trade or free agency are not eligible.  In other words, players may only be placed on EDR directly after being drafted by your franchise.
    Players that have never played an MLB game are eligible for the EDR.  As soon as a player on the EDR has one MLB game played, they must immediately be moved to the 40-man roster or released.  If the player is moved to the 40-man roster, they are subject to standard prospect contract rules.  Players on the EDR may be traded, but the acquiring team must place them on the 40-man roster
    The Franchise GM Entry Draft will last 10 rounds, but teams are not required to make picks if they do not wish to make room on their EDR
    Signing bonuses paid to drafted player count against the teams salary cap - after required signing bonuses are paid, players on the EDR are kept at no cost.  Players may be dropped from the EDR at any time, at no cost, to make room for newly drafted players (signing bonuses are not reimbursed).  Players released from the EDR are subject to standard free agency rules.
    Only players eligible for the MLB Entry Draft will be eligible for the Franchise GM Entry Draft - foreign players and unprotected prospects will be handled via free agency (however foreign players may warrant consideration for an additional rule)
    If a player is not signed by their respective MLB team, the Franchise GM team can retain the player but must increase the signing bonus from the original fixed, pre-draft price to 150% of that value, with a minimum of 0.5M (if they originally did not require a signing bonus).  If a 1.0M player goes unsigned, you can either cough up an extra 0.5M for the signing bonus (1.0M*150%=1.5M, -1.0M already paid = 0.5M), or lose the players rights and receive no compensation (but the originally paid 1.0M is reimbursed).
    The 60-day no trade ruling is extended to include draftees.

[MillerTime]

Trade is invalid.

Jackie Bradley was recently drafted and isnt able to be traded till 6/1/12

It is 60 days from signing day, no?

Howe just completed a trade involving Susac.   

[shooter47]

Trade is invalid.

Jackie Bradley was recently drafted and isnt able to be traded till 6/1/12

I don't think this is correct.  According to the rulebook this is the only thing I could find. 

Trading Recently Signed Free Agents
Free Agent signings cannot be traded until 60 days after they have signed.  This date will be shown per each player in the official rosters section.  In addition to our 60-day NTC rule, any players signed to extensions as well as FA contracts in the offseason cannot be traded until June 1st the following year.

This rule only applies to players who were signed as free agents or to extensions in the offseason.  Jackie Bradley and Andrew Chafin were both drafted and signed on last years books and were not signed in the offseason.  They also are both pasted the 60 day NTC rule as of today. Not sure what would make this trade invalid.  Maybe I missed something in the rules but I can't find anything.