Losing an RFA

[Colby]

This rule would apply to 2011 onward.  Ben, I like the idea of basing it on the player's positional ranking.

[Canada8999]

Ben, I like the idea of basing it on the player's positional ranking.

For reference, he's what I found on the MLB compensation rules:

Free Agent Compensation

A club may receive draft-pick compensation if it loses a free agent if:

(1) the player signs with another club before December 2; or

(2) the club offered arbitration to the free agent but failed to re-sign him.

Free agent compensation is based on the free agent’s place in the Elias Sports Bureau’s ranking of all major league players by position based on their performance during the last two seasons. Players are ranked by league in one of five positional groups: 1) 1B/DH/OF, 2) 2B/SS/3B, 3) catchers, 4) starting pitchers or 5) relief pitchers. The statistical criteria vary by position, and are not made available to anyone outsideof Major League Baseball.

Type A players are those who rank statistically in the top 20 percent at their position. Compensation for a Type A player is the signing club’s first-round draft pick and a supplemental pick between the first and second rounds.

Type B players are those who rank between the top 21 and 40 percent. Compensation for a Type B player is a supplemental pick between the first and second rounds.

If a team loses a free agent who is statistically in the bottom 60% of all players at his position, the former team does not get any compensation.

Read more at Suite101: Baseball Free Agency Rules: MLB Player Eligibility and Draft Compensation Explained http://baseball.suite101.com/article.cfm/baseball_free_agency_rules#ixzz0hAD6MWBL

[clidwin]

do like, i believe this is how we should structure our rule!

[Colby]

I think we can work with this...

Type A players are those who rank statistically in the top 20 percent at their position. Compensation for a Type A player is the signing club’s first-round draft pick and a supplemental pick between the first and second rounds.

Type B players are those who rank between the top 21 and 40 percent. Compensation for a Type B player is a supplemental pick between the first and second rounds.

If a team loses a free agent who is statistically in the bottom 60% of all players at his position, the former team does not get any compensation.

60 MI
60 CI
90 OF
150 SP
180 RP

TYPE A (New team's 1st round pick + S-1 pick): Top 20% = Fantrax positional ranking of

Top 12 MI, CI
Top 15 OF
Top 30 SP
Top 36 RP

TYPE B (S-1 pick): Next 20% =

13th - 24th ranked MI, CI
16th - 30th ranked OF
31st - 60th ranked SP
37th - 72nd ranked RP

I think our new model for RFAs is going to be key for the small market teams as it is in real life.

[clidwin]

another question what happens if the team doesnt have a 1st round pick avaiable?

[Colby]

another question what happens if the team doesnt have a 1st round pick avaiable?

Excellent point.  Are 1st rounders un-tradeable in MLB?

[clidwin]

Exceptions

If the signing club’s first-round draft pick falls in the upper half of the first round, that choice is protected and the signing club loses its second-round selection instead.
If a club signs multiple free agents within the same category, its earlier pick goes to the team that lost the higher-rated player.

[Canada8999]

Excellent point.  Are 1st rounders un-tradeable in MLB?

No picks can be traded in MLB...

[Dan Wood]

Yeah, you cannot trade picks in MLB. I think our system should be closer to that of the NFL, since we trade picks. Or award the picks before they can be traded. Hence (hypothetically if we did it this year) picks could be given for the 2011 draft. Or we could basically do it as Type A - S1 and S2, Type B S-2, and somehow concoct a type C. I also don't think we should go out of the top ten at a position when awarding first rounders. Plus in MLB I think picks 1-15(have to double check the numbers) in the first round are protected from being awarded to other teams when said team signs a Type A free agent. The Mets first rounder(7th overall) this year was protected when they signed Jason Bay. That also leads us to what happened with the Yankees last year when they signed Burnett, CC, and Teix. The ended up not giving up that many picks because they signed so many Type A FAs. The Jays got screwed on that one.

[clidwin]

I guess you never see MLB teams trade draft picks. what if you say if you dont have a 1st rounder then you cant bid on class A Free Agents. That makes your 1st round pick that much more valuble!