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bravesfan4

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Re: Possible Rule Amendment - In season re-signings
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2011, 12:28:00 PM »
They have variable salaries because gm's when signing players make there contracts different by year. Most big deals are backloaded. They only thing averaged out is there current contract. its paid amongest the years. sure a gm could give it to them all at once, but in real life mlb when a extension is done, the contract kicks in asap! 

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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2011, 04:24:05 PM »
Players extension value should take over immediately.  Too confusing the other way, firstly.  And we have a limit on contract years allowed.  If I sign a player to a five year extension they'd have a 6 year contract...which is a violation!
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2011, 07:40:19 PM »
Players extension value should take over immediately.  Too confusing the other way, firstly.  And we have a limit on contract years allowed.  If I sign a player to a five year extension they'd have a 6 year contract...which is a violation!

All we're doing is making it formal before the 5-day window...
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2011, 07:43:12 PM »
Our current rule in place states that once you sign a player to a said amount of money, the new total immediately counts towards your current years budget. I propose a rule where you can resign a player, and the salary would start the following year. This was the Brewers GM's idea, but I think it is a fantastic one, and would make a ton of sense for teams in this league.

I would like to take the topic further. We also currently in place a way to restructure absurd contracts. I think we should also have in place a way to resign a player at a lower value. The stipulations would be...
 - Players value, from the previous two scoring periods, would have to be lower than his current salary
 - Player is in the final year of his contract, cannot be still under contract for multiple years - that is what the restructure is for.
 - Prospect Extensions are different. If you choose to do it for a prospect, then the discount will be for the prospect following year of eligibility. This falls under the 40, 50, 60... see prospect extensions.
 - If a player is in his final year of prospect eligibility, then tough breaks, either take the hit this year, or you do not get to sign said player under a prospect extension.
 - Contract must be no less than 2 years. 1 year deals would not be allowed. What FA would sign early, for less, for less years? No one I know.

The addition of this rule, I feel will make the RFA process no longer needed.

Please discuss further

I dont understand what you mean Ben, with the 5-day window.  If you re-sign a guy his contract should update instantly.
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2011, 07:57:36 PM »
I dont understand what you mean Ben, with the 5-day window.  If you re-sign a guy his contract should update instantly.

We're likely to move to a 5-day window after the season where teams have exclusive negotiating rights to their expiring contract players.  Without allowing future extensions, all we'll do is make teams wait for that 5-day window.  This isn't how it works in MLB, and it really doesn't benefit anyone to make them wait.  It also doesn't offer any advantage, other than the convenience of getting the formality out of the way.  Other than the additional tracking cost, which Colby seems to be ok with, I don't see any reason not to make the change.
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joeshmoe

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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2011, 07:59:32 PM »
We're likely to move to a 5-day window after the season where teams have exclusive negotiating rights to their expiring contract players.  Without allowing future extensions, all we'll do is make teams wait for that 5-day window.  This isn't how it works in MLB, and it really doesn't benefit anyone to make them wait.  It also doesn't offer any advantage, other than the convenience of getting the formality out of the way.  Other than the additional tracking cost, which Colby seems to be ok with, I don't see any reason not to make the change.

right...but the value of the extension should begin immediately shouldn't it?
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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2011, 08:01:39 PM »
right...but the value of the extension should begin immediately shouldn't it?

Well that's the discussion.  My opinion is no, it shouldn't since it will only make teams wait but for no real reason.
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2011, 08:02:40 PM »
right...but the value of the extension should begin immediately shouldn't it?

in season extensions without a doubt should begin immediately. You cant give a player an extension and not pay till next year. If we are trying to immulate mlb then you sign a player and he gets paid immediately.
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Re: Possible Rule Amendment - In season re-signings
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2011, 08:05:37 PM »
in season extensions without a doubt should begin immediately.

Can you elaborate on why you think so, comparing the advantages and disadvantages?
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joeshmoe

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Re: Possible Rule Amendment - In season re-signings
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2011, 08:09:56 PM »
Can you elaborate on why you think so, comparing the advantages and disadvantages?

Because that's how extensions work

edit:  Note Adrian Gonzalez.  The Red Sox waited for his extension to avoid the luxury tax increase.  Why wouldn't they simply agree to an extension taking place after the luxury tax?  Because it's not how it's done.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2011, 08:11:40 PM by joeshmoe »
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