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Angels/White Sox Trade
« on: December 04, 2013, 05:21:46 PM »
Angels and White Sox agree to the following trade, White Sox to confirm

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         2014 3rd rd pick
         Donn Roach

for

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          Adam Dunn         (2014: $15M)
          Alexei Ramirez    (2014: $9.5M, 2015: $10M)
          Nick Wittgren
          2013 9th rd pick
          2014 5th, 6th, 7th rd picks
           
« Last Edit: July 17, 2016, 08:09:32 PM by chrisetc21 »
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Re: Angels/White Sox Trade
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2013, 05:41:46 PM »
Angels confirm.

While this trade adds nearly $25M in salary and costs a premium draft pick and good prospect, the Angels feel they are ready to compete this year.
Getting the multiple lower draft picks and Wittgren help ease the loss of the 3rd rd pick and Roach. While the Angels could have instead just invested in FA and kept the pick and prospect, this trade was also done with the idea of financial flexibility. Comparable players on the FA market probably would have required 3-4+ years commitment, Dunn and Ramirez are signed to only 1 and 2 year deals respectively. The Angels like this as it keeps options open down the road as players like Trout will be due big pay raises in the final 3 arb years.
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Re: Angels/White Sox Trade
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2013, 06:02:09 PM »
White Sox confirm. I don't plan on contention this year so Dunn is not too useful to me and I can use his salary and Alexei's salary elsewhere. I give up a relief prospect for a possible 3/4/5 starter who is nearing MLB ready and get an improvement on my deaft next year as I don't value post 3rd round picks very highly, quite the crapshoot, more than usual.

Main motivation is the salary, Roach is about as valuable to me than Wittgren (although I may regret that) and the gap between a 3rd and 5th rounders are so wide that I'll take the net 3 pick drop.

Hurts to lose Ramirez, but he's doesnt fit into my future plans.

Nice dealing with you Angels.
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Re: Angels/White Sox Trade
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2013, 06:07:41 PM »
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Re: Angels/White Sox Trade
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2013, 06:22:49 PM »
 :iatp:

Interesting deal on both sides.  Love all the reasoning provided!
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Re: Angels/White Sox Trade
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2013, 07:06:22 PM »
Please include salary in all deals if applicable.
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Angels/White Sox Trade
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2013, 07:59:30 PM »
Very lopsided trade in my view. White Sox give up 900+ fantasy points and 4 draft picks for a 3rd pick. The prospects involved are both fringe at best.  Ramirez is a top level shortstop on a very reasonable contract. He in particular is worth much more than a salary dump.

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Re: Angels/White Sox Trade
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2013, 08:12:01 PM »
I agree it's lopsided talent wise but Ramirez and Dunn are both on the downside of their careers and $34.5 million in payroll is a ton.  I can see the reasoning though Wittgren is a sneaky pick up because he could be Miami's closer soon.
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Re: Angels/White Sox Trade
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2013, 08:21:20 PM »
Have to say I am on the fence on this one.  With that being said I can see a directive for both parties and the reasoning is great.  As a judge I was convinced by good arguments on both sides.  Based on the arguments on both sides I will approve.

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Re: Angels/White Sox Trade
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2013, 09:20:01 PM »
Makes sense for both sides,  :iatp:
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