Withdrawing bids

[Colby]

Isn't it in the rules that bids cannot be withdrawn?

[joeshmoe]

I think allowing the retraction of a bid sets a bad precedent. One, it takes away all the responsibility away from a GM during the bidding process. Why wouldn't you bid up a player if there is a mechanism in place that allows you to rescind the bid, there is no consequence to it. The auction process should be participated in in a responsible matter, if we allow people to bid all willy-nilly only to rescind their bid because they have a case of buyer's remorse, it will not only slow the process but it is unfair to the other GM's who might have interest and/or bids in on said player. Seems to me like the farther along we get in the life of the league, the more people are looking for ways to exploit the system for their own personal benefit. I think this goes against the spirit of competition and camaraderie that we have fostered here and creates a situation where petty bickering becomes the focus rather than having fun; which is really what this league is supposed to be about. I have found the league to be increasingly troublesome and stifling over the last few weeks and that type of environment will only serve to drive smart, capable and passionate GM's from the league. Yes, the purpose of the league is to win, but if the methods used to win wind up destroying the fabric of the league was it really worth the victory? This is all my opinion of course and not entirely related to this issue, however, I feel that I needed to say my peace because I enjoy this league and I wish to continue to take part in it.

I agree with Kris here and he has said what I feel more tactfully. 

In all seriousness, it is simply a bad precedent, and the implications are too complicated to go over in one paragraph.  I really am apologetic for how I said it, could have been done better.  Sometimes humor isn't easily read in text.  I'm glad Roy is on board.

[rcankosy]

The subject is dropped.  I will abide by my bid on Pena.

Roy

[Dan Wood]

I withdraw my bid on Kelly Shoppach... can someone kindly remove the money I owe him from my payroll? Thanks! Great! Wonderful! This is awesome, didn't know we could do this...

Anyone else want to shed some salary of their bad free agent signings?


 

[Dan Wood]

Roy, seriously give it a rest... Colby was the acting Commish at the time, and had to make a spot on decision. I took you side on the prospect thing when it was argued.

Try going to any auction and saying, whoops really didn't want that, you know what they would say to you? TS... JOeschmoe was right, use some common sense. As soon as it goes in the transaction board it is official. You've been here for two seasons now. If someone new was to do it OK, we would have to explain it to them. But really? If you really don't want someone, don't effing bid on them, and this goes for everyone.

And it was my original bid before you two started dog piling on it. So really shouldn't I be the one upset, or maybe the smart one for not bidding too much on a part time player?

[rcankosy]

The Chris Withrow resolution was a decision at the time by Colby, not a formal ruling by the RC.  Colby also stated in postings on the site and private messages to me that I could extend prospects that were not signed to prospect deals.  However, that was later ruled to be illegal by the RC, because IT WAS NOT IN THE RULES.  You can't have it both ways.  The rules say nothing about bids being irrevocable. 

[KDoc09]

I think allowing the retraction of a bid sets a bad precedent. One, it takes away all the responsibility away from a GM during the bidding process. Why wouldn't you bid up a player if there is a mechanism in place that allows you to rescind the bid, there is no consequence to it. The auction process should be participated in in a responsible matter, if we allow people to bid all willy-nilly only to rescind their bid because they have a case of buyer's remorse, it will not only slow the process but it is unfair to the other GM's who might have interest and/or bids in on said player. Seems to me like the farther along we get in the life of the league, the more people are looking for ways to exploit the system for their own personal benefit. I think this goes against the spirit of competition and camaraderie that we have fostered here and creates a situation where petty bickering becomes the focus rather than having fun; which is really what this league is supposed to be about. I have found the league to be increasingly troublesome and stifling over the last few weeks and that type of environment will only serve to drive smart, capable and passionate GM's from the league. Yes, the purpose of the league is to win, but if the methods used to win wind up destroying the fabric of the league was it really worth the victory? This is all my opinion of course and not entirely related to this issue, however, I feel that I needed to say my peace because I enjoy this league and I wish to continue to take part in it.

[Dan Wood]

http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=2275.20

[Dan Wood]

And that was me. Due to the fact that I was unaware of that rule, since we were all new to the league at that point in time it was let to slide.

But I remember someone else bidding up Chris Withrow and being told that withdrawing bids was not allowed, then the Yanks GM came in and saved said persons ass.

[rcankosy]

see chris withrow...it is not allowed

I recall someone bidding on Willy Taveras whom they had previous cut and withdrawing the bid after it was pointed out that they would have to reinstate the previous salary if they re-signed him.