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This is essentially the same trade that has been vetoed twice now with different names. A defense first catcher (McGuire instead of O'conner), a fifth starter who may end up a long man (Chavez instead of Greene), a bench player (Guyer instead of Olt), and sicco is pretty much a non-prospect at this point. As much as I am not a fan of Panda, his age and contract make him more valuable than this.