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FNHL VOTE: 2021-22 CAP 5% DECREASE?
« on: September 03, 2020, 08:59:56 PM »
30 days for FNHL owners to have their say.

Does this make sense?
Will it help the league overall?
Does this hurt FNHL?
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Re: FNHL VOTE: 2021-22 CAP 5% DECREASE?
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2020, 09:28:54 PM »
I think it would actually be good for FNHL after the expansion draft to go with a cap decease. If it negatively impacts our league we can stop doing it the following year. Simple as that.
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Re: FNHL VOTE: 2021-22 CAP 5% DECREASE?
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2020, 10:27:58 AM »
My first vote. Being the owner of a couple of teams how does my vote count? Ex. 1 vote per team which equals 2 votes. or can I split my vote Yes for one and No for other? Or sometime more complicated like 1 owner vote for a pair of teams but reduce overall team count by 1 so ratios work? Just want to be sure. Thanks.
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Re: FNHL VOTE: 2021-22 CAP 5% DECREASE?
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2020, 08:02:46 PM »
Colorado is an easy NO but would revisit.

I need to see the impact of the forwards pay raise over the next two years. I think that move alone will correct the league.

Folks should recognize both the forward pay raise and this cap decrease would increase the value of draft picks. They should also realize the financial stress top teams have of losing a player w no return. We might see a Kadri or Wilson only worth a second round pick going forward. But then similar talent getting scooped from FA for 6m.

From mathematics perspective the two expansion franchises and yoy league cap increases have added a rough 400m in available funds in the last handful of years. The salary increase is more complex to navigate than this high level overview but the top 40 players in the league picked up about 5m per in pay raise so there goes half the gap. I suspect more than the remaining 200m is consumed by the other 250 forwards impacted with the pay raise.
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Re: FNHL VOTE: 2021-22 CAP 5% DECREASE?
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2020, 10:29:01 PM »
I think with static extension values for close to ten years, a small reset like a 5% decrease over the NHL cap ceiling value should help FNHL keep team finances in check league wide. I think this would reduce the gap between the top and bottom teams in FNHL. For me, I want to be part of a sustainable competitive league and this is a step in the right direction.
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Re: FNHL VOTE: 2021-22 CAP 5% DECREASE?
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2020, 12:11:43 AM »
I would like to see this rollback of 5% from the NHL's cap ceiling for 2021-22. It's a good suggestion to ensure some additional cap tension gets introduced because as we saw last off season, there were tons of teams with too much cap and not enough players entering Free Agency.
This was my comment from the discussion thread. I still believe there are many teams with close to the $10-12 million range in cap space heading into the new season which could be even higher if you factor in expiring contracts and buyouts coming off the books.
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Re: FNHL VOTE: 2021-22 CAP 5% DECREASE?
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2020, 06:00:02 PM »
:MIN-NHL::TBL::LAK: will go with this change and ok with a 2021-22 implementation versus 2 years out. We will have 2020-21 to adjust to the extension increase for skaters. Should work out well for the league overall imo. I think the opposite would hurt the league (ie. giving teams too much cap to spend is like giving children too much rope to play with). If it really is a bad change, stop doing the 5% decrease in 2022-23. That's my take.
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Re: FNHL VOTE: 2021-22 CAP 5% DECREASE?
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2020, 06:01:11 PM »
My first vote. Being the owner of a couple of teams how does my vote count? Ex. 1 vote per team which equals 2 votes. or can I split my vote Yes for one and No for other? Or sometime more complicated like 1 owner vote for a pair of teams but reduce overall team count by 1 so ratios work? Just want to be sure. Thanks.


Each of your teams gets one vote. You can choose to split your vote but you have to specify exactly how each team votes. Hope that helps.
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Re: FNHL VOTE: 2021-22 CAP 5% DECREASE?
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2020, 07:13:29 PM »
My first vote. Being the owner of a couple of teams how does my vote count? Ex. 1 vote per team which equals 2 votes. or can I split my vote Yes for one and No for other? Or sometime more complicated like 1 owner vote for a pair of teams but reduce overall team count by 1 so ratios work? Just want to be sure. Thanks.

Godzilla is correct. That is how we add up votes in FNHL. Each team gets 1 vote. An owner with more than one team gets 1 vote per team they own and as Godzilla mentioned you can split the vote however you like.

For example, you own NYI and DET and you can have the Wings vote no and Isles vote yes etc.

Each of your teams gets one vote. You can choose to split your vote but you have to specify exactly how each team votes. Hope that helps.
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Re: FNHL VOTE: 2021-22 CAP 5% DECREASE?
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2020, 07:16:59 PM »
Voting currently stands at: AFTER 48hrs
7 Yes - 3 No - 1 Either 

*though AntMan/ :COL-NHL: haven''t officially cast their vote
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