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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #71 on: October 23, 2009, 11:36:03 AM »
Yes, roughly.  Values should be assigned to each so that pitching is roughly, on average 36-37% of a teams performance.  Should I try to draft point values for discussion?  Should I include quality starts and ground balls?  Are there any other statistics, not mentioned in the formulas I listed that should be added?

Did you say the same thing over again?

Anyways, I think the rest of the R.C. trusts your guidance with the scoring categories.  I like what you have already proposed if it can be done in a points-based fashion rather than category based.  If we can get that going along with my requested enhancement for prorating stats (given they are above the minimum), then I think we will be set.  I can also set matchups on a basis that is not weekly such as X number of days.  A 3-day matchup against a team is a good representation of a series.  Of course, there is no 3-0, 2-1, 1-2, 0-3 result, just 1-0 and 0-1, so we will probably end up with 45-48 games/matches for the regular season.
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #70 on: October 23, 2009, 11:29:23 AM »
Yes, roughly.  Values should be assigned to each so that pitching is roughly, on average 36-37% of a teams performance.  Should I try to draft point values for discussion?  Should I include quality starts and ground balls?  Are there any other statistics, not mentioned in the formulas I listed that should be added?
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #69 on: October 23, 2009, 11:26:19 AM »
Yes, roughly.  Values should be assigned to each so that pitching is roughly, on average 36-37% of a teams performance.  Should I try to draft point values?  Should we include quality starts and ground balls?  Are there any other statistics, not mentioned in the formulas I listed that should be added?

How about we come up with our metric for QS that is not based on ER?
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #68 on: October 23, 2009, 11:23:57 AM »
Yes, roughly.  Values should be assigned to each so that pitching is roughly, on average 36-37% of a teams performance.  Should I try to draft point values?  Should we include quality starts and ground balls?  Are there any other statistics, not mentioned in the formulas I listed that should be added?
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #67 on: October 23, 2009, 11:11:31 AM »
I'm on board with the reference statistics for sure... Other considerations for pitching scoring statistics could be ground balls, quality starts and innings pitched... Typically, with all other variables held constant (most importantly walks), ground ball and strike out pitchers perform best.

Something like...

GB+K-BB-HBP

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« Reply #66 on: October 23, 2009, 11:02:54 AM »
I'm on board with the reference statistics for sure... Other considerations for pitching scoring statistics could be ground balls, quality starts and innings pitched... Typically, with all other variables held constant (most importantly walks), ground ball and strike out pitchers perform best.
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« Reply #65 on: October 23, 2009, 09:45:04 AM »
You are not going to find those stats in this league.  We may include them for reference only as I mentioned above with zero-weighted stats.  We're looking for pure individual contributions to a team's run production / run prevention.

I can live with that.  I was answering the question using what I am used to.  I will adapt. 
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #64 on: October 23, 2009, 09:06:47 AM »
I enjoy a basic 6 X 6 league and add in FLD % as well.

R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OBP

FLD %

W SV, K/BB, ERA, WHIP, HLD

I really like leagues with OBP and HLD you can easily find surprise sources of these stats, therefore evening the playing ground for Smaller Market teams.

You are not going to find those stats in this league.  We may include them for reference only as I mentioned above with zero-weighted stats.  We're looking for pure individual contributions to a team's run production / run prevention.
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #63 on: October 23, 2009, 08:03:12 AM »
I enjoy a basic 6 X 6 league and add in FLD % as well.

R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OBP

FLD %

W SV, K/BB, ERA, WHIP, HLD

I really like leagues with OBP and HLD you can easily find surprise sources of these stats, therefore evening the playing ground for Smaller Market teams.
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #62 on: October 23, 2009, 07:54:32 AM »
I emailed Fantrax about my pro-rating idea, and they said they would consider the enhancement.  BTW, Ben, what M.J. is proposing is a H2H points based league, not categories.  As in fantasy football, you can earn points from your QB, WR, RB, TE, K, and DEF/IDP.  All of the points are weighted accordingly, so that certain statistics matter more than the other. With the James' ratios, we can do just that with what M.J. outlined.

I also think it is important to add in some "zero" weighted stats for display purposes only.

AVG, OBP, SLUG
K/BB, ERA, WHIP

We could also consider other countable stats such as R, RBI, HR, SB, W, SV, HLD, K.
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