2012 and 2013 Salary Caps

[rcankosy]

I would have thought that the 2012 and 2013 salary caps would have changed more for several teams in the league.  For example, the Athletics have clearly out-performed their caps, but their caps in 2012 and 2013 doesn't seem to have reflected it.  On the flip-side, the several large market teams that performed well under their caps saw minimal decreases to it?  I thought that the actual standings represented 20% of our future caps, so it seemed puzzling to me.

[h4cheng]

I was wondering about this too, how is future cap calculated again?

[Corey]

I disagree on big markets. Look at how bostons has dropped. The mets fell another 10m. I took the yanks to the world series and the cap fell 10m. 

[rcankosy]

I don't mean to single out any one team, but I have to identify a team to make my point, so here goes.  How did the Cubs' cap go from 142.5 in 2011 to 148 in 2012?

[Colby]

I don't mean to single out any one team, but I have to identify a team to make my point, so here goes.  How did the Cubs' cap go from 142.5 in 2011 to 148 in 2012?

It is a bit of a moving average relying on numbers from prior years.  Chicago started with $200m cap in 2009.  Reference this post for the 2009-2010 cap changes - http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=323.0

That $200m cap is still included in their averages, but then after this year the Cubs' cap starts dropping due to recent caps and poor performance as it falls to $139.5m next year, and if the Cubs perform like they did in 2011, then it will fall even more in 2012 to $125m.

[h4cheng]

It is a bit of a moving average relying on numbers from prior years.  Chicago started with $200m cap in 2009.  Reference this post for the 2009-2010 cap changes - http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=323.0

That $200m cap is still included in their averages, but then after this year the Cubs' cap starts dropping due to recent caps and poor performance as it falls to $139.5m next year, and if the Cubs perform like they did in 2011, then it will fall even more in 2012 to $125m.

Colby, do you still have the link to how the cap is calculated?

[rcankosy]

It is a bit of a moving average relying on numbers from prior years.  Chicago started with $200m cap in 2009.  Reference this post for the 2009-2010 cap changes - http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=323.0

That $200m cap is still included in their averages, but then after this year the Cubs' cap starts dropping due to recent caps and poor performance as it falls to $139.5m next year, and if the Cubs perform like they did in 2011, then it will fall even more in 2012 to $125m.

The message on the team pages say that the 2012 and 2013 salary caps are set in stone and it shows the Cubs with a cap of 148m for 2012 and 2013.

[papps]

I was also curious about this as my team has performed very well and I took a 20 million cap loss for next year. 

[Colby]

I said this wrong...

That $200m cap is still included in their averages, but then after this year the Cubs' cap starts dropping due to recent caps and poor performance as it falls to $139.5m in 2014, and if the Cubs perform in 2012 like they did in 2011, then it will fall even more in 2015 to $125m.

[joeshmoe]

can you maybe help explain a little more of this?  Feel free to use my padres as an example of how it works.