Tiers Remodeled

[Colby]

The tiers were designed as a simple aspect of replicating the market disparity of baseball.  While I do like this, I think we can afford to make it more complex for 2011 and beyond.  I am thinking of having a different cap amount per each team that is based on previous spending and winning.  For example, if a team was at a 0.500 record in one year, and they were a small market team, then it would make sense that the owner would invest in them.  Likewise, if a big market team had the same record, the owner would cut the losses.

[clidwin]

I do like but to a point. What you thinking about for money.

[Canada8999]

We could replicate the concept I've proposed for the Sandlot league, where owners set budgets based on the teams record.  Being a 1-time per season calculation, I don't think it would be too difficult to implement.

http://profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=583.msg2841#msg2841

[Dan Wood]

Personally I think it should be a percentage based on where you finished. And yes I am stealing from 'The Show' on this one. If you have a 2nd place finish then say you get a 10% boost. 3rd place finish 5% boost. Anything after that tough cookies. Playoff appearances should also be taken into consideration. That is added revenue to teams as well. I also think this could vary depending on what tear you are in. I also don't think the top tier teams should get anymore budget, because they already have quite the advantage. You guys are better with numbers than I am, but I think remodeling the tiers is a fantastic idea.

[Colby]

This is from New Era...

In 2010, the league will feature variable salary caps for all teams based on the three-year average (2007-2009) payroll + $20m.  The starting caps are:

New York Yankees: $220m
Boston Red Sox: $155m
New York Mets: $150m
Chicago Cubs: $138m
Detroit Tigers: $136m
Los Angeles Angels: $134m
Los Angeles Dodgers: $129m
Chicago White Sox: $129m
Seattle Mariners: $128m
Philadelphia Phillies: $120m
Atlanta Braves: $115m
Houston Astros: $113m
St. Louis Cardinals: $113m
Toronto Blue Jays: $107m
San Francisco Giants: $103m
Milwaukee Brewers: $97m
Baltimore Orioles: $96m
Cleveland Indians: $94m
Cincinnati Reds: $91m
Texas Rangers: $88m
Colorado Rockies: $86m
Minnesota Twins: $86m
Kansas City Royals: $85m
Arizona Diamondbacks: $84m
Oakland Athletics: $83m
San Diego Padres: $78m
Washington Nationals: $71m
Pittsburgh Pirates: $66m
Tampa Bay Rays: $64m
Florida Marlins: $50m

Use those cap numbers, with a 1-year grandfathering clause for the teams of the top three tiers.  Movement between cap values would be based on the following formula.

Cap ranking (CAPR) - 1st for highest cap, 30th for lowest from above list
Standings (STAND) - 1st for WS champ, 9th for best team out of playoffs, 30th for worst team in MLB

CAPR(2010) = 3*CAPR(2009) + STAND(2009)

The new cap ranking is then hooked up with the new 3-year average + $20m.

This gives the weighting 25% to performance and 75% to current market status.

[lp815]

This is from New Era...

Use those cap numbers, with a 1-year grandfathering clause for the teams of the top three tiers.  Movement between cap values would be based on the following formula.

Cap ranking (CAPR) - 1st for highest cap, 30th for lowest from above list
Standings (STAND) - 1st for WS champ, 9th for best team out of playoffs, 30th for worst team in MLB

CAPR(2010) = 3*CAPR(2009) + STAND(2009)

The new cap ranking is then hooked up with the new 3-year average + $20m.

This gives the weighting 25% to performance and 75% to current market status.

Expecting the Mets to cut $50 million and the Phillies to cut $80 million in one year isn't a good idea, in my opinion.

[Colby]

Expecting the Mets to cut $50 million and the Phillies to cut $80 million in one year isn't a good idea, in my opinion.

Hence a one-year grandfathering period that allows the six teams in the top three tiers to apply the old rules (forcing them into a cap based on tier based on payroll only).

[lp815]

Guess I'm still lost, Colb...do you have layman's terms for me?

[Colby]

Guess I'm still lost, Colb...do you have layman's terms for me?

All I am saying is that the top three tiers (6 teams) would follow the old rules for one more year (2011) whereas the rest of the league would use the new cap formula.  This gives a couple big market teams such as the Phillies and Mets time to shed some contracts or not resign certain players.

For example, say the Mets (currently in tier #2) spend enough money in 2010 that would put them in to tier #4 for 2011.  Since they are one of the top three tiers in 2010, they will then have a cap of $125m.  The new rule would not apply to them no matter what.

[lp815]

Oh, so they're really getting TWO years to do this?