BiG TRADE Boston/Florida (Hanley)

[clidwin]

I've really only got only question regarding this trade- IS IT EVEN LEGAL? I know the rules are very unspecific in this regard, but as far as I can tell, any trade that has been made where cash has changed hands from one team to another, it went along with a player in order to offset a portion or all of a players salary. Forget the cap ramifications- This is a straight up purchase of a player. Are we going to allow this to become an acceptable means of obtaining players? I think it sets a very dangerous precedent to allow players to be traded straight up for cash and a few middle of the road prospects. The higher tier teams already have a huge advantage in making trades, signing free agents and giving big bonuses to prospects... now they're flat out allowed to purchase a player? I don't agree with this and I really think this needs to be looked at... but maybe that's just me.

I hate to stick my nose in this but I think what he is saying is TRUE. No team can just throw money at a team just to trade a player.

ALSO: throw this thread into the INVALID section. THANKS

[Lucas Lima #52]

I think money should only be used to pay a player sallary... So it would be "attached" to the player...

In the case of picks, you could limit it to the signing bonus attached to that draft position or 0.5mil in the case of a pick without bonus...

[Canada8999]

I've opened a new thread in the RC section to discuss limits on trading cash, so please continue that conversation there. 

I'm no longer on the TC (although I think our current TC may be understaffed with 2 members supposedly MIA), but I'll second Colby's proposal to send this trade back to BOS/FLA to put together another version (although we still haven't hear from FLA...)

[h4cheng]

I am not on TC, but I would let this trade go:
- Hanley is a bargain at 11.5M per year, but he becomes less of bargain at 14.7M (if we take into account the 16M sent to FLA)
-For a small market team, is it really smart to have so much $ tied to one player?
-The prospects are pretty second rated, but Anderson a year ago was a top prospect, there is still time to bounce back there. Bowden on the other hand can still be a solid #3.

I also don't have anything against rich teams essential buying players. There is a point in which it's advantageous for small teams to "sell" players to the richer team. By simply saying that it's unfair for rich teams to buy players would just block anther avenue for small market/medium markets to compete. If someone is willing to send me $ annually, I'd think about giving up Wieters or Upton.

[hank]

Sorry guys, I was busy yesterday.
I accept this trade for an obvious reason - I want to be more active.
I can't do anything without money, so I decided to give up Hanley after serious consideration. If a small market team can not accept money from a trade, it will be extremely difficult to improve.
If there is no financial problem for Boston, I hope this deal be approved. Thanks!

[Dan Wood]

Hank,

Being active aside - you still have 6.5 million to spend, plus a bunch of guys under prospect contracts that you can drop without taking a salary hit and adding to that 6.5 mil - Colby, Ben, myself, the TC, and RC will not allow this deal to go through as is. You are not receiving an adequate return for what is the second best player in baseball. You want to clear some salary that is fine. If you and Boston want to get back together and come up with a package that includes a better package, then that is fine, I encourage teams to trade. But what is currently on the table is not going to be accepted by me, the RC, or the TC. I hope we can all sort this out. As it stands now, this trade is invalid.

[daddypadre]

woah...im emptying out my prospects, no matter how good you think they are, for hanley...

Florida needs money, and the way their team can become bigger valued IS taking in more money and paying out more salary. Is that not what the tiers are there for?

I can see your point you guys, this is debateable, I am ok either way.

[daddypadre]

I am looking into ways to make this trade work, so im just bumping it up there.