pitching for bats

[OUDAN]

i am with dan, i have seen deals like this go through even since i have been here. I think its horrible that some trades are allowed and then the next one that does the samething gets vetoed. TC get it together and be CONSISTENT PLEASE. i know its a hard role to have but just be consistent and it wont be a big deal

[Canada8999]

i am with dan, i have seen deals like this go through even since i have been here. I think its horrible that some trades are allowed and then the next one that does the samething gets vetoed. TC get it together and be CONSISTENT PLEASE. i know its a hard role to have but just be consistent and it wont be a big deal

Unfortunately you don't get to vote on your own trades 

I think the TC is saying if Ried speaks up and clarifies that he understands the scoring, understands the value between pitchers and MI's and is still in favor of this trade, they'll let it go through.  But just like with other trades the TC had concerns with, he NEEDS to make such a post otherwise it will be vetoed (consistency). 

I think requesting new GM's to give justification on their first few trades makes sense even if they're not questionable, just so we can gain the confidence in them to let them make moves in the future that others might see as questionable.  Also, has it been 2 weeks since Reid took over the Rockies, or are we no longer implementing that rule?

[Daniel]

Unfortunately you don't get to vote on your own trades 

I think the TC is saying if Ried speaks up and clarifies that he understands the scoring, understands the value between pitchers and MI's and is still in favor of this trade, they'll let it go through.  But just like with other trades the TC had concerns with, he NEEDS to make such a post otherwise it will be vetoed (consistency). 

I think requesting new GM's to give justification on their first few trades makes sense even if they're not questionable, just so we can gain the confidence in them to let them make moves in the future that others might see as questionable.  Also, has it been 2 weeks since Reid took over the Rockies, or are we no longer implementing that rule?

I had that rule somewhere in the back of my mind and didn't remember if it was still around. Was about to bring it up as well.

Daniel, regarding your comments, we have not yet voted against the trade, we have just asked guru pertinent questions because since he is new he may not be aware of how the league functions. He needs to read the comments and reply in order for us to be able to vote on the trade.

Dan, I believe no trade has ever happened in the league in which a top MI with such a favorable contract is traded for a top SP with a regular contract. If you remember any, please post it so we can have it as a reference. Also, it is not a matter of whether it is vetoable or not yet. It is a matter of whether reid understands the scoring system and the value of players of this league since he has just taken over.

[Orange Country]

Wow, I've never seen a trade so heavily analyzed that is fair on paper. After reading the posts before mine here, I wonder about Peds knee and can he stay healthy? He has been mired in a crap season and its debatable whether he can be even healthy going forward. Grienke is more expensive and I do lose a valuable MI bat. I am torn on what to do in this trade as I hear everyone else saying hitters are more valuable than pitchers. I have not checked up on this no as I did not know. That tells me the scoring system should be more balanced, but that's an argument for another day. Colby picked me for a reason and the team I took over is elite. I did say i would not jump the gun and the other offers besides this one would have done just that. I consider myself a good trader, but when a fair trade gets critiqued in a league where the passion and activity is borderline ridiculous which is awesome lol tells me that I need to think things thru more. I have decided after typing this short novel that I will hang onto Peds for the time being. I hate backing out of an agreed trade and it makes me look like a wussy. However, I want the long term best interest of my team and the league to be above my ego and let this thru.

[Dan Wood]

Daniel V there have been instances in the past where bats have been traded for pitchers. Both players are of elite pedigree. I was respondin to someone's post, don't know who, who said it should be vetoed. I agree that new GMs should have a little more protection so to speak until they get a full grasp of the league. But zack was quite the commodity after 2009, so to say there is a tremendous value discrency between the two players is untrue...that is all i was getting at. If reid felt his team was lacking another ace, and felt pedroia was disposable-he doesn't- but if he did i don't think i could disagree with him, if that is his opinion. And Howe, all due respect, u gave up the rockies, if you are going to chime in everytime reid makes a move, then you should have stayed put. Just saying.

[OUDAN]

THIS IS BULLCrap! everyone making him second guess himself god just wait til u guys have a slightly debated trade. we need to make some changes to the TC nothing is consistent with it!

guru i will add in a MI to take peds place come on dont let them ruin our negotiations we can get this done

[28]

we were just telling him because he is new and i think the TC is pretty consistent for the most part

[OUDAN]

i disagree i have seen trade like this one go through in the month or so i have been on here. it seems to me its all about who gets what they want as to if the veto it sorry guess i just need to vent since guru and i were BOTH happy with this deal

[28]

i know but since he is new they were just making sure he knew that a pitcher has less value than a hitter

[OUDAN]

to late now, thanks guys