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Re: Scoring for Pitchers and IP limit
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2011, 11:30:53 PM »
The problem here is tht a big modification to the rules alters players values too much. Suddenly Middle Relievers that are inning eaters with SP eligibility will be worth a lot of money at low salaries while lower end SPs will lose a lot of their value and starters with RP eligibility will lose all their value. There needs to be a transition period to minimize the effect on teams and GS cannot be capped without capping IP as well. And please remember this is fantasy baseball after all. In real life every team is getting the necessary amount of IPs to end the game even if it is from a position player or from a player just called up from AA. It does not happen that way in fantasy baseball. So if one of your starters gets injured in the first inning of a game you get screwed real bad because you are down one start and have no IPs to show for. 

My suggestions are 9 GS and 70IP.
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Re: Scoring for Pitchers and IP limit
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2011, 05:47:54 PM »
I think it has to be an innings cap as opposed to a starts cap because then you can throw out RP after RP throughout the week. With an innings cap you can balance where you want your innings to come from. Depth will still play a role if injuries do occur. Two teams with high expectations both got killed by injuries this season because of very little depth.

I also don't think it puts too much in favor of the major market teams since there are only so many players to go around. It looks to me like less and less valuable talent will be available for free agency. You will always have the Clay Hensley's of the world who start for half a season, but what can you do about that?
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Re: Scoring for Pitchers and IP limit
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2011, 10:33:48 PM »
can we start a vote on this?
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Re: Scoring for Pitchers and IP limit
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2011, 11:03:23 PM »
We need too, it will drastically change the way you approach pitchers. Innings limit you can load up on short inning pitchers and get 12 to 13 starts a week.

GS limit and you want quality not quantity.
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Re: Scoring for Pitchers and IP limit
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2011, 11:41:23 PM »
My vote is for an IP cap...65 innings
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Re: Scoring for Pitchers and IP limit
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2011, 11:54:44 AM »
Marginal change to IP cap may be the way to go.  :iatp:
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Re: Scoring for Pitchers and IP limit
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2011, 12:12:14 PM »
I agree with Daniel's point and Dan's innings thought.  I am in the 65 to 70 IP range, so good with the recommended 65 IPs.

On the trotting out 20m SP.  It is a theory that is just tossed out there.  Sure you have Cliff Lee, Verlander, Halladay, Lincecum, King Felix, and CC.  But look at the other high priced arms from last year:

AJ Burnett $16.5m
Nolasco 14m
Brett Myers 13.5m
Lackey 16m
Edwin Jackson 13m
Garza 10m

Also the contracts of:
Johan Santana 23m
Josh Johnson 13.5m
Peavy 14m

SP come with alot of risk.  Teams can go sign a bunch of 20m arms, but most likely paying for a career year with one or two of them and also run a great risk of injury.  Nothing worse than a high priced SP on the DL all year. 
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Re: Scoring for Pitchers and IP limit
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2011, 12:27:07 PM »
I am also with a 65IP cap. I'd like to also tweak the pitcher scoring eventually but I dont want to bog down the process.
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Re: Scoring for Pitchers and IP limit
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2011, 01:06:37 PM »
I agree with Howe, yes the SP scoring process does need to be tweaked a bit... something the RC can take care of in the coming months since there are many varying opinions on which way we should go.
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Re: Scoring for Pitchers and IP limit
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2011, 08:05:39 PM »
I'd prefer a starts limit, but if the consensus is 65IP then I think that's an improvement over the current rules and will help prevent diluting the pitching market by just throwing any live arm out there.

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