Home
Staff
View the memberlist
Search For Members
Portal
Mentions
League Openings
League Search
Login
Register
Leagues
ProFSL: Pro Fantasy Sports Leagues
»
Fantasy Leagues
»
MLB Leagues
»
Franchise GM
»
Franchise GM: History Books
»
Franchise GM: Rules Changes
»
Franchise GM: Clarifications & Discussion
(Moderator:
ldsjayhawk
) »
RC Vote Needed for the Following Proposal on Rookie Bonsuses
Franchise GM
Wall of FGM Champions
|
Fantrax Page
|
Rulebook
|
Contracts
|
Extension Calculator
|
Transactions
|
Draft Room
|
Draft Order
|
|
|
|
PAPPS
« previous
next »
Print
Pages:
1
[
2
]
3
4
Go Down
Author
Topic: RC Vote Needed for the Following Proposal on Rookie Bonsuses (Read 3335 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
h4cheng
MVP
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 4198
Bonus inPoints: 0
Re: RC Vote Needed for the Following Proposal on Rookie Bonsuses
«
Reply #10 on:
September 05, 2012, 05:37:14 PM »
Changing my vote to #5.
Logged
0
0
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Dan Wood
Guest
Re: RC Vote Needed for the Following Proposal on Rookie Bonsuses
«
Reply #11 on:
September 05, 2012, 06:51:05 PM »
I could go with 5...so that's 3 for 5...out of 7 members....who has yet to vote?
Then we get then treat of discussing numbers
Logged
0
0
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
rcankosy
All-Star
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 2475
Bonus inPoints: 0
Re: RC Vote Needed for the Following Proposal on Rookie Bonsuses
«
Reply #12 on:
September 06, 2012, 11:39:32 AM »
I believe that eliminating the bonuses would achieve the same objectives as # 5 without the burden of establishing draft budgets by team and tracking rookie bonuses. It seems as if the main objective is to get the top talent into the hands of the neediest teams without compromising their ability to compete in the regular season. I see no advantage to option # 5, because a reasonable draft budget would allow teams to afford the rookies they want regardless of bonus level. Some top prospects fell to the better teams this year, because some teams could not afford the rookie bonuses. Please let me know if I am missing something, because simpler is generally better, unless there is an advantage to draft budgets that I am missing.
«
Last Edit: September 06, 2012, 11:48:12 AM by rcankosy
»
Logged
0
0
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
VolsRaysBucs
MVP
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 3677
Bonus inPoints: 0
Re: RC Vote Needed for the Following Proposal on Rookie Bonsuses
«
Reply #13 on:
September 06, 2012, 11:44:58 AM »
I'm good with #5 as well.
Logged
0
0
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
It's not the deep water that drowns us...we die because we stop kicking.
rcankosy
All-Star
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 2475
Bonus inPoints: 0
Re: RC Vote Needed for the Following Proposal on Rookie Bonsuses
«
Reply #14 on:
September 06, 2012, 11:51:24 AM »
To be clear, I would like someone to explain the practical advantages of # 5 over # 2. # 5 sounds good in theory, but the same objectives could be achieved by # 2 without the extra work of establishing draft budgets and tracking bonuses. A draft scenario comparing one option to the other would be ideal, because I don't see a difference between the two options and # 5 involves a lot more work.
«
Last Edit: September 06, 2012, 11:55:11 AM by rcankosy
»
Logged
0
0
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Dan Wood
Guest
RC Vote Needed for the Following Proposal on Rookie Bonsuses
«
Reply #15 on:
September 06, 2012, 11:55:37 AM »
I tend to agree Roy, but there seems to be a concesus of maintaing the bonuses. Giving teams a budget limit adds to the strategy of the draft. Again, I am fairly open to any of the suggestions on the board, but those are the positives that I can see coming from option 5
Logged
0
0
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
h4cheng
MVP
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 4198
Bonus inPoints: 0
Re: RC Vote Needed for the Following Proposal on Rookie Bonsuses
«
Reply #16 on:
September 06, 2012, 12:00:55 PM »
#2 would eliminate any strategy besides picking the best player. With #5, teams would still need to take money into consideration which is more realistic. My vision of the draft budget would be a supplement. Teams are still welcome to spend regular cap space on the draft.
I think what #5 is doing essentially it to shrink the gap in cap space between big market and small team. A cleaner solution might be to bump up the cap space of smaller market teams so we dont have to keep track of 2 caps.
Logged
0
0
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
rcankosy
All-Star
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 2475
Bonus inPoints: 0
Re: RC Vote Needed for the Following Proposal on Rookie Bonsuses
«
Reply #17 on:
September 06, 2012, 03:02:51 PM »
I realize that we are trying to emulate real life, and a draft budget appears to add strategy, but I do not believe that it will. Let's take the Orioles as an example. We would need to give them a large enough budget to accommodate the best and 31st player available in the draft. Apply that same logic on down the line to the the other teams. The second you separate the draft budget from the regular one, all the teams would have funds readily available for the players that would probably fall to them in the draft. Where is the strategy assuming everyone drafts the best player available and they have the cap budget to do so? Again, it seems like a lot of work for nothing unless someone can provide a workable example of how the supposed strategy behind a draft budget would come into play.
Logged
0
0
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Dan Wood
Guest
Re: RC Vote Needed for the Following Proposal on Rookie Bonsuses
«
Reply #18 on:
September 06, 2012, 04:15:38 PM »
My thinking on it is as such...
Giving a team a draft budget (cap) that is all they would be allowed to spend in the draft, unless they wanted to spend some of their money and sign the player to a MLB contract, add that player to their 40 man, and not receive any benefits of having said player as a prospect (see Mike Trout as an example).
In my head #6 works better because that way the cap amount is fluid from season to season. ANd would emulate the way the Rays were built. High picks until they got good, then the gravy train runs out. The numbers I had more or less imagined were 10 mil for the lower end teams and 3 mil for the higher end (rich or playoff teams depending if we are talking 5 or 6) and 5 mil for the guys in between. Again the numbers can be finagled.
I tend to agree with Howe that #2 doesn't involve any strategy because of all of the auto picking that goes on here.
Logged
0
0
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
mattpily
All-Star
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1060
Bonus inPoints: 0
Re: RC Vote Needed for the Following Proposal on Rookie Bonsuses
«
Reply #19 on:
September 06, 2012, 04:18:12 PM »
I like option 5 and 6 but if I had to pick just 1 I would go with 6
Logged
0
0
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Print
Pages:
1
[
2
]
3
4
Go Up
« previous
next »
ProFSL: Pro Fantasy Sports Leagues
»
Fantasy Leagues
»
MLB Leagues
»
Franchise GM
»
Franchise GM: History Books
»
Franchise GM: Rules Changes
»
Franchise GM: Clarifications & Discussion
(Moderator:
ldsjayhawk
) »
RC Vote Needed for the Following Proposal on Rookie Bonsuses
Forum Search
Quick Profile
Username:
Password:
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
Did you miss your
activation email
?
Chat Room
Braves155
:
Responded indians
May 19, 2024, 12:43:07 PM
dbreer23
:
Cubs are dealing in FGM, hit me up
May 19, 2024, 12:59:38 PM
Braves155
:
Looking for an OF in FGM. IN Armchair looking to re-tool/rebuild a bit. Snell and others could be avail
May 19, 2024, 01:09:11 PM
Braves155
:
PM Davew
May 19, 2024, 01:23:10 PM
dbreer23
:
Brian CLE PM
May 19, 2024, 01:49:57 PM
Braves155
:
PM BAB
May 19, 2024, 03:29:20 PM
indiansnation
:
Bayareaballers pm trade posted in fgm
May 19, 2024, 03:56:17 PM
indiansnation
:
Braves ill send u message soon
May 19, 2024, 03:56:32 PM
indiansnation
:
Dbreer23 pm
May 19, 2024, 03:58:46 PM
indiansnation
:
Braves155 pm
May 19, 2024, 04:35:11 PM
indiansnation
:
Watching boston kick the living crap out of cardinals
May 19, 2024, 04:53:49 PM
Braves155
:
Great seeing the Knicks get schooled
May 19, 2024, 06:37:35 PM
Rhino7
:
I agree, pacers will be a better match vs Celtics
May 19, 2024, 07:02:21 PM
Braves155
:
But just like anytime Stephen A. gets hyped for the Knicks, they disappear in big games
May 19, 2024, 07:08:00 PM
TheGOAT
:
Celtics would probably win it all
May 19, 2024, 07:20:01 PM
Braves155
:
Looking forward to TWolves-Nuggets tonight
May 19, 2024, 07:22:40 PM
TheGOAT
:
Around for trade talks in NFL Live
May 19, 2024, 08:07:18 PM
Braves155
:
Likewise
May 19, 2024, 08:22:40 PM
Jwalkerjr88
:
What you looking for? @Thegoat?
May 19, 2024, 11:01:43 PM
Rhino7
:
Down goes the Champs! Nuggs out
May 19, 2024, 11:56:44 PM
Daddy
:
That Minnesota NBA LIVE team aint lookin too bad right now. Should be fun!
Yesterday
at 12:00:46 AM
Rhino7
:
Good team except the contracts
Yesterday
at 03:09:09 PM
Daddy
:
Youve seen them? We havent completely structured all that yet. Weve got expansion and other factors that the real Wolves dont face.
Yesterday
at 03:39:40 PM
Daddy
:
My comment on the real Wolves are if they win a chip then there is no such things as bad contracts. The point of all contracts are to win Championships.
Yesterday
at 03:40:57 PM
STLBlues91
:
I will be around the rest of the day to talk deals. Tomorrow I will be around after work but plan on being in some spreadsheets most the day
Yesterday
at 05:04:22 PM
Rhino7
:
No, haven’t seen them except on spotrac
Yesterday
at 05:33:13 PM
Daddy
:
@Rhino7 the rumor is they've got a decent GM in both leagues. Especially NBA LIVE. (Howwwwwwwl)
Yesterday
at 07:13:40 PM
STLBlues91
:
Well Vegas is ready to grab one of the players on the roster
Yesterday
at 07:17:34 PM
Daddy
:
Lol, Seattle too Im sure.
Yesterday
at 07:43:10 PM
Daddy
:
I will leak this... Each team will be allowed to protect 5 and each team can only lose one player to expansion
Yesterday
at 07:44:21 PM
Daddy
:
30 teams to draw from = 15 players each
Yesterday
at 07:44:57 PM
STLBlues91
:
Id also imagine trading and all that can happen. Like pick a guy to trade to another team to pick up other assets
Yesterday
at 07:45:25 PM
Daddy
:
You know LIVE rules. Once they are yours you can do whatever you like.
Yesterday
at 07:46:32 PM
STLBlues91
:
Yeah had to just check. So a deadline to select the keepers. Then a few days for the selection. Me and Seattle alternate picks?
Yesterday
at 07:47:47 PM
Daddy
:
The expansion draft is LIVE alternating picks until both teams have 15 players like the NBA All Star teams get picked.
Yesterday
at 07:48:04 PM
BayAreaBallers
:
oh Crap
Yesterday
at 07:49:27 PM
BayAreaBallers
:
this is interesting w my team
Yesterday
at 07:49:42 PM
BayAreaBallers
:
who to protect outside the obvious
Yesterday
at 07:49:52 PM
STLBlues91
:
Sounds good I didnt know if it would be like the NHL expansion with seattle where they get posted or live broadcasting
Yesterday
at 07:50:02 PM
Daddy
:
The "Expansion draft" will be a LIVE Event & followed by the Entry Draft where Vegas/Seattle also will start off with picks #1 & #2.
Yesterday
at 07:50:06 PM
Daddy
:
We doing BIG Crap with this basketball league. Buckle up!
Yesterday
at 07:50:46 PM
Daddy
:
NBA LIVE is codenamed "The "Matrix" for all the numbers we running. Its currently being built.
Yesterday
at 07:52:40 PM
STLBlues91
:
Well I will get my roster breakdown before the live expansion since I am done working for the summer next Wednesday
Yesterday
at 08:01:38 PM
Daddy
:
NHL LIVE will drop first. Hockey guys trade like crazy. Good luck.
Yesterday
at 08:12:04 PM
STLBlues91
:
Yeah working on that spreadsheet and a few fixes on it. May do some slight visual adds and then to NCAA football sheet which I got going as well
Yesterday
at 08:48:21 PM
Daddy
:
the best moderator team on the planet. Thanks!
Yesterday
at 09:14:11 PM
Daddy
:
Can you imagine a league(s). Where EVERY player that becomes a professional has value.. and 30-32 teams have 30-32 different people are actively determining that value?
Today
at 01:46:50 AM
Daddy
:
Where you dont wait for trades to happen on scoring sites or SS updates and the only thing asked of you is to run your own franchise and see how good you are. On an EVEN playing field.
Today
at 01:48:59 AM
Daddy
:
Its already near impossible to get into NFL LIVE. We had to start up a 64 team league just to accommodate the waiting list. True Story.
Today
at 01:55:29 AM
Daddy
:
Once full. NBA, NHL, & NCAAs will be very difficult to get into. People dont just walk away from LIVE often and when they do... They usually want back in. Legit dont miss your team in your sports. Get them while you can.
Today
at 02:00:44 AM