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Re: Scoring for pitching
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2011, 08:55:00 AM »
I vote yes to change and I am good with any of the three options listed by Roy. 
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Re: Scoring for pitching
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2011, 06:41:52 PM »
2-2...Howe, Colby could you please get in on this?
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Re: Scoring for pitching
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2011, 08:02:06 PM »
Yay if change can be implemented before FA bidding and impact is manageable
No otherwise
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Re: Scoring for pitching
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2011, 08:07:07 PM »
Yay if change can be implemented before FA bidding and impact is manageable
No otherwise

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Re: Scoring for pitching
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2011, 08:08:28 PM »
Then I leave it to you (Howe), Roy, and Mike B to pow wow, and come back with something that isn't too much of a drastic change from what we have.

The onus has been put on you gentlemen. Roy and Mike being the most ardent supporters of a rule change, not just on the RC, but in the league as a whole. If you want to recruit anyone else from our GM pool, you have my permission. You have just under 2 weeks to accomplish this task.

That is all gentlemen, thank you gentlemen, that is all...
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Re: Scoring for pitching
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2011, 08:10:49 PM »
My concern is still the impact. Take Capuano's start, he gets 96 pts under the GSC system. In our current system, he is getting at least 9 * 13 = 121 pts, that's a pretty big difference.

If GSC is indeed a superior metric (can you prove this is the case?), I think the switch towards GSC should be gradual. We could have the pitcher's final score be a weighted average of the current system and the GSC system (e.g., 80% weight for the current, 20% for the GSC in the first year).

Roy, if you can come up with a response to this post, I'd more than willing to help the cause.
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Re: Scoring for pitching
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2011, 10:13:53 PM »
Howe and I will calculate/review the pitching scoring using the alternative methods I suggested and share the results with the rest of the RC.
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Re: Scoring for pitching
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2011, 10:44:12 PM »
Howe and I will calculate/review the pitching scoring using the alternative methods I suggested and share the results with the rest of the RC.

Good show...Thanks guys
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Re: Scoring for pitching
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2011, 09:14:39 AM »
Guys,

Howe and I have agreed on our proposal to the RC.  We would like to propose that we use a 50/50 hybrid of the current system and Balanced Game Score for 2012.  Balanced Game Score is Game Score * 1.5.  The multiplier is necessary, because the GS values are much lower than the numbers produced by the old system, and we don't want to skew the overall % of how much pitching is worth relative to hitting.  The attached file doesn't show the results of the hybrid system, but it's easy to see that the majority of the players will be impacted up or down by less than 20%.  Hellickson is the one guy I noticed that goes up dramatically under the new system.  The RC can decide the weighting in future years.  We can suggest something like 50/50 in 2012, 75/25 in 2013, and 90/10 in 2014 or 50/50, 60/40, and 75/25.  Howe and I have agreed to let the RC decide the weighting in years beyond 2012.

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Re: Scoring for pitching
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2011, 09:22:05 AM »
Guys,

Howe and I have agreed on our proposal to the RC.  We would like to propose that we use a 50/50 hybrid of the current system and Balanced Game Score for 2012.  Balanced Game Score is Game Score * 1.5.  The multiplier is necessary, because the GS values are much lower than the numbers produced by the old system, and we don't want to skew the overall % of how much pitching is worth relative to hitting.  The attached file doesn't show the results of the hybrid system, but it's easy to see that the majority of the players will be impacted up or down by less than 20%.  Hellickson is the one guy I noticed that goes up dramatically under the new system.  The RC can decide the weighting in future years.  We can suggest something like 50/50 in 2012, 75/25 in 2013, and 90/10 in 2014 or 50/50, 60/40, and 75/25.  Howe and I have agreed to let the RC decide the weighting in years beyond 2012.

Roy

Which column is the finished number, the balanced number?
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