RC - Please Vote on the Future Owner of the Dodgers

[Colby]

Who has the longest tenure for a transfer?

Joeshmoe

Who is the most reputable MLB GM applying for the job?

MTK

Who is another FGM GM who served his time and lost out on the Dodgers wrongly last time?

BHows

Who has done a great job since transferring from Detroit to Boston?

Nerwffej

Who would bring new blood to the league?

Joe

Who has applied before, is very active, and wants to stay with one team?

Eric

Who deserves it?

That's the big question.  It is a subjective matter.  People shouldn't get upset.  It is a fantasy league.  Personally, in any other keeper league, you don't get the opportunity to take someone else's team when they leave.

I like the idea of Chris or BHows getting it.  Worse teams should go to new GMs and Chris has served his team albeit the Padres have improved very little.  Meanwhile, BHows deserves to be back in this league and lost out unfairly but so did Joeshmoe with the Yankees when OUDAN took them.

How many times can BHows apply for the Dodgers and be rejected?  He and nerwffej have the best FGM resumes and should be considered first and foremost if tenure isn't the ultimate decision maker.  With that said, I vote for BHows.

However, don't throw any candidate under the bus in this discussion.  Likewise, candidates shouldn't be complaining about the process and calling out people.  This is meant to be a fun league.

[joeshmoe]

Who has the longest tenure for a transfer?

Joeshmoe

Who is the most reputable MLB GM applying for the job?

MTK

Who is another FGM GM who served his time and lost out on the Dodgers wrongly last time?

BHows

Who has done a great job since transferring from Detroit to Boston?

Nerwffej

Who would bring new blood to the league?

Joe

Who has applied before, is very active, and wants to stay with one team?

Eric

Who deserves it?

That's the big question.  It is a subjective matter.  People shouldn't get upset.  It is a fantasy league.  Personally, in any other keeper league, you don't get the opportunity to take someone else's team when they leave.

I like the idea of Chris or BHows getting it.  Worse teams should go to new GMs and Chris has served his team albeit the Padres have improved very little.  Meanwhile, BHows deserves to be back in this league and lost out unfairly but so did Joeshmoe with the Yankees when OUDAN took them.

How many times can BHows apply for the Dodgers and be rejected?  He and nerwffej have the best FGM resumes and should be considered first and foremost if tenure isn't the ultimate decision maker.  With that said, I vote for BHows.

However, don't throw any candidate under the bus in this discussion.  Likewise, candidates shouldn't be complaining about the process and calling out people.  This is meant to be a fun league.

I'd like to know what the expectations were for a team that had little cap space, no assets and a terrible roster?  What more could I have done?  How many times can Rick apply for it and get rejected?  How many times can I apply for a transfer and be rejected without the same argument for me?  The fact is no one has been objective and applied why, only what they think.  That's not cool.  Why was it you think Rick did so well with the White Sox?  What was the expectation (since it was changed midstream) for me to apply for a job?  And yes I will COMPLAIN when the rule change of the procedure only negatively impacts me.  Why did we set up a rule that made me think I was next in line if that wasn't the rule?

Why did a member approach Rick before the situation was handled in the appropriate manner?  A member went to him and suggested he should apply, totally out of line with the rules that existed.  And those rules were followed up until this very transaction.  The rules were changed to prevent me from transferring and they target only me.  If nobody can understand my distress then what use is talking about it. 

Just remember this, Rick quit on this league once.  That's not calling out a member, that's just a fact.  One the entire community is willing to reward with the first job he desires to get back into.  For shame to punish me for sticking with my club.  And now it seems the RC can simply disallow any transfer I ask for.  Will I ever get a chance for a transfer?  I can't understand how a fun league, that set up a rule to stop hard feelings about this stuff, is intentionally disregarding this and creating hard feelings.  And to suggest I'm complaining unjustly is a slap in my face. 

Thanks for giving the job to Rick and saying I suck at management without giving me one reason.  Thanks.

[joeshmoe]

And for the record this method of finding a new owner isn't something I made up or wrongly thought was what the method would actually be.  It was an executive order but the Admin for the league created the rule by using it repeatedly, and as Dan said best, we all knew what it was.  Whoever "invited" Rick did wrong, because the job was open only to internal members for 72 hours.  When I brought this inconvenient fact up a new executive order was issued to disregard the old exec order because exec orders aren't rules.   So what validates the change of transfer rules that Roy did?  There is no preceedure being followed and this whole thing is being created as we go.  That's not the way to do things.  This isn't like Shooter where the intent of the rule was unclear.  The intent of the rule was very clear for transfers.  But again, we all knew the rule and the proof is how it was applied consistently for the time period upto this time:

It has been brought to my attention that the Mariners GM, no longer wants the gig...You guys know the process. 72 hours internal, then we take it outside...Please post interest below...also please explain what you would do with the team, and try not to make it the usual, I will build with youth and veterans, blah, blah blah - snore... I would like any prospective GM to have knowledge of the players on the roster

Thank you  - Management

[kungfuwig]

I personally think that we need to stick with what we have done in the past and allow internal members to have first go at the job. I think that once a member within the league has applied and become a the new owner of the team, their old team should go to a new owner from outside the league. I think that joeshmoe has been a part of this league with a tough team for a while and has not changed teams for 2 1/2 years and deserves a chance to change. I do not think owners should be allowed to change teams more than once or twice, that just is too much. If you are in this league you should be expected to take over a team with a plan and stick with it. This league is the closest to real life that I have personally been in and there will be tough seasons, but I don't think that owners should be moving around often, or should want to. I would never want to change teams even if a team like the Yankees opened up...I would hate to see my team in someone else's hands. Anyway I feel like I am ranting. I suppose that means my vote goes to joeshmoe. I also think that there should be a limit on how many teams a single owner can own in this league during his tenure here and there should also be a specific amount of time that an owner needs to be with his current team before transferring.

[Dan Wood]

Chris - you turned down the Rockies... Not like you haven't been granted a transfer before

[VolsRaysBucs]

Even though I believe the rule is bogus to begin with, the fact that it has been used on several occasions already leads me to believe it needs to be followed in this situation.  In a perfect world, a GM would be allowed one move during his time at FGM.  This would emulate real life, as rarely do GMs get to run 3 or more teams during their careers.  I would actually prefer to see newbies take over available squads, especially when they are strong teams, as parity is an issue already in this league and a good team taking a potential small step back is not catastrophic, as some believe it is. 

All of that being said, my vote is for Chris to be awarded the Dodgers.  If he goes inactive again, he is gone, period, and their can be a new period of application for the Dodgers (at which time Rick would get the job I'm sure).  Turnover lately in this league has been pretty high, so the chances of Rick having the opportunity to land a better team is also high.  As much as I like Rick, I think the guy who quits because the bounce didn't go his way should not be rewarded over the guy who stuck it out despite facing the same "bounce."  Rick is a fine GM who will do well no matter where he ends up, so I also feel this is better for the league as a whole.  Lastly, I am a big fan of rules and procedure being followed.  I have had problems in the past with leagues that cherry-picked rules based on a variety of reasons.  I've always found that things work for the better morale-wise when the letters in print are followed.  Tough call fellas, but I have to go with what I feel is the right thing to do.

[joeshmoe]

Chris - you turned down the Rockies... Not like you haven't been granted a transfer before

I did throw my hat in the ring for the Rockies, but I wasn't interested by the time the I had reviewed the team and decided to remain in SD.  I'm not lying when I said I was waiting for the right transfer to a team I cared to manage...and I knew if I took that Rockies gig I wouldn't have had the chance to move somewhere better when the opportunity presented itself.

[Dan Wood]

I change my vote... Chris can have the Dodgers.

[MillerTime]

I'd like to know what the expectations were for a team that had little cap space, no assets and a terrible roster?  What more could I have done?  How many times can Rick apply for it and get rejected?  How many times can I apply for a transfer and be rejected without the same argument for me?  The fact is no one has been objective and applied why, only what they think.  That's not cool.  Why was it you think Rick did so well with the White Sox?  What was the expectation (since it was changed midstream) for me to apply for a job?  And yes I will COMPLAIN when the rule change of the procedure only negatively impacts me.  Why did we set up a rule that made me think I was next in line if that wasn't the rule?

Why did a member approach Rick before the situation was handled in the appropriate manner?  A member went to him and suggested he should apply, totally out of line with the rules that existed.  And those rules were followed up until this very transaction.  The rules were changed to prevent me from transferring and they target only me.  If nobody can understand my distress then what use is talking about it. 

Just remember this, Rick quit on this league once.  That's not calling out a member, that's just a fact.  One the entire community is willing to reward with the first job he desires to get back into.  For shame to punish me for sticking with my club.  And now it seems the RC can simply disallow any transfer I ask for.  Will I ever get a chance for a transfer?  I can't understand how a fun league, that set up a rule to stop hard feelings about this stuff, is intentionally disregarding this and creating hard feelings.  And to suggest I'm complaining unjustly is a slap in my face. 

Thanks for giving the job to Rick and saying I suck at management without giving me one reason.  Thanks.

Oak was in same situation.

[MillerTime]

This needs to go by protocol of the league.  Existing members are allowed to transfer 1st.  New or returning members are then allowed the remaining teams.  This protocol eliminates the subjective and this is why a standard is in place, it upholds the credibility and respect of the league.

Chris or Jeff both have a shot at the openings in my opinion, right of refusal.  Which gets the first shot is subjective.  I would only believe that Jeff to LAD and Chris to BOS would fit Chris' personal preference.

For the next teams, I would vote Rick, Eric, and then MTK in that order.  Based upon how they left and where they stood on application.