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extensions #2: schenn, versteeg, kulemin, b.johnson
« on: July 12, 2012, 03:43:03 PM »
here are a 4 extensions, 3 of which come from a recently approved trade (details in this thread: http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=63923.msg343211#msg343211):

Defense we'll sign luke for the max. 4yrs (ref: $5.5m - $7.9m, 4 years)
Luke Schenn, $5.8m (2015-2016)

2011-12: D - 111.55pts @ 26th
2010-11: D - 117.85pts @ 19th >> value = 5.8m


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 :judge: jul13-12: due to contract value, term must be 3yrs ... (see :COL-NHL: post below)

LW/RW we'll sign nikolai for 3yrs 1yr
Nikolai Kulemin, $4.9m (2014-2015)(2012-2013)

2011-12: LW - 86.4pts @ 91st
              RW - " @ 76th
2010-11: LW - 156.4pts @ 22nd >> value = 4.9m
              RW - " @ 25th


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LW/RW we'll sign kris for the max. 3yrs (ref: $1.5m - $5.4m, 3 years)
Kris Versteeg, $2.8m (2014-2015)

2011-12: LW - 133.85pts @ 45th
              RW - " @ 44th >> value = 2.8m
2010-11: LW - 114.95pts @ 64th
              RW - " @ 62nd


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Goalie we sign brent for 1yr
Brent Johnson, $1.1m (2012-2013)

2011-12: G - 56.25pts @ 58th
2010-11: G - 135.25pts @ 42nd >> value = 1.1m
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Re: extensions #2: schenn, versteeg, kulemin, b.johnson
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2012, 10:32:16 AM »
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LW/RW we'll sign nikolai for 1yr
Nikolai Kulemin, $4.9m (2012-2013)

2011-12: LW - 86.4pts @ 91st
              RW - " @ 76th
2010-11: LW - 156.4pts @ 22nd >> value = 4.9m
              RW - " @ 25th


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Kulemin's extension would need to be for 3 years because 4.9M falls between 1.5M and 5.4M on the scale under contracts in the rule book.

Maximum and Minimum Years
<= $1.4m, 2 years
$1.5m - $5.4m, 3 years
$5.5m - $7.9m, 4 years
>=$8m, 5 years (the overall limit)
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Re: extensions #2: schenn, versteeg, kulemin, b.johnson
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2012, 10:47:31 AM »
Kulemin's extension would need to be for 3 years because 4.9M falls between 1.5M and 5.4M on the scale under contracts in the rule book.

Maximum and Minimum Years
<= $1.4m, 2 years
$1.5m - $5.4m, 3 years
$5.5m - $7.9m, 4 years
>=$8m, 5 years (the overall limit)

you are right :COL-NHL:! good catch.

i'll make that correction to the original post to keep the extension note nice n neat.
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Re: extensions #2: schenn, versteeg, kulemin, b.johnson
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2012, 12:23:59 PM »
actually, i think this rule needs interpretation since it states the yrs are "max." values for length and not that a team can't use a shorter contract length.

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Contracts:
Except for any contract inherited in 2010, all contracts must be no longer than five years.  Also, for a given salary, all contacts (extension, FA) have term limits (max years contract can be per the salary) as provided below.

Maximum Years
<= $1.4m, 2 years
$1.5m - $5.4m, 3 years
$5.5m - $7.9m, 4 years
>=$8m, 5 years (the overall limit)

so it makes sense for FA bidding to use max values (since bids are for total value then chopped up into annual values).

however, for extensions it doesn't explicitly state contract length is obligatory.

example, in the NHL... you can sign a Zach Parise to an extension of 7.9m for 1yr ... reason to reduce risk of overspending and in case something happens to the player and the team wants to walk away from the extensive contract... vs getting stuck with a ball-n-chain contract like the Dipietro deal.

perhaps Rules Committee, joeshmoe and Drew can interpret this Max contract length for extensions?
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