Thinking out loud

[RyanJames5]

2) 60 day rule: I really don't like the idea of someone signing a FA and then shipping them off.  It seems like it would yield shady dealings.  The exception to that is that if a FA is signed during the season, I could see wanting to be able to move them at the deadline.  As for extensions, if you're team isn't interested in keeping the player, I don't want your team to artificially increase the player's value when you have no intention of keeping the player.   I'd rather them hit the FA market.

The issue I have with a statement like this is the following?
I resigned Tyler O?Neill, Jordan Hicks, Colin Moran and Willy Adames when it financially made sense for me to do so. I extended them because I want all 4 of them to be part of my roster going forward. However, within the next 2 weeks, O?Neill, Hicks and Moran got hurt, Robert, Trout and Arroyo got hurt and Luis Urias potentially lost his starting spot. None of those things are within my control, but now I?m left without enough starting OF or MI and no ability to deal players that I?ve resigned to team friendly deals.

So while I didn?t end up stuck for long, I could have ended up stuck for 30 or more days with no flexibility simply because I resigned players when it was financially best to do that and I don?t think that makes sense

[jimw]

New guy here.  I would be for IR list flexibility.

As far as the 60 day no trade rule, would it be possible to keep rule for new signings and allow extended players to be traded? MLB players aren't really traded much in April or May.  There is no MLB rule, but in practice new players to a team aren't really traded quickly. 

Extended players were already on the team, and while a player who gets an extension isn't traded quickly in real life I can see how the scenario that Ryan James puts forth about extending a player only to have your roster needs change due to injuries would cause a team to want/need to trade.

Being the newest member though, I will be happy with whatever is decided.

[Brent]

The issue I have with a statement like this is the following?
I resigned Tyler O?Neill, Jordan Hicks, Colin Moran and Willy Adames when it financially made sense for me to do so. I extended them because I want all 4 of them to be part of my roster going forward. However, within the next 2 weeks, O?Neill, Hicks and Moran got hurt, Robert, Trout and Arroyo got hurt and Luis Urias potentially lost his starting spot. None of those things are within my control, but now I?m left without enough starting OF or MI and no ability to deal players that I?ve resigned to team friendly deals.

So while I didn?t end up stuck for long, I could have ended up stuck for 30 or more days with no flexibility simply because I resigned players when it was financially best to do that and I don?t think that makes sense

Exactly.  And we haven't even touched the subject of load management which MLB teams are doing with the 10-Day IL. 

[Flash]

Even though we?ve only had 1/3 of the league chime in on the issues at hand, here?s what I see:

1) There are at least 8 GMs who support having IL spots added on Fantrax.  That is enough to support a vote on a league wide referendum.  I would envision a 2 player Injured List with strict monitoring to injure player are not kept on the IL once they have been returned to regular status by their MLB team.  I believe Fantrax has a monitoring mechanism for this.  I will research further before posting the referendum for a vote, but from a practical perspective, I think an FGM IL should be limited to players on the 60 day IL, because it would seem to be unmanageable if we included those players on a 10 day IL.  Our rules aren?t as liberal as MLB?s as to who can be placed on our MiLB rosters, so as such, a 10 day IL doesn?t seem as debilitating as a 60 day IL because we have 20 active spots and a 40 player MLB roster.  In the meantime, it would help if GMs posted what they would envision as the ideal amount of IL spots and whether it should be limited to players on the 60 day IL.

2)  There isn?t enough support for a referendum on the 60 day no trade moratorium, so we cannot go any further on that issue at this time.

I will send out a league wide PM alerting everyone to this announcement.  However, feel free to continue the discussion for further clarification.

[ldsjayhawk]

I think two on a 60 day IL is about right!