2018-19 FNHL Minimum Skater Salary: $0.6m

[izaman3]

POV
Here's my take as a commissioner.

Not only does FNHL give owners 30 roster spots, use of MiLR player in & out free without a contract, the min salary of 0.2m makes it too easy to sign random players at will and dump when they don't pan out.

A vote against the increase means you prefer things easier and less challenging is the way I see it. That doesn't sound like the group of owners we have in Franchise NHL!

How many 0.2m players do teams have on average?

8 on Carolina (new wave of ownership)
5 on LAK (Commissioner)
2 on BUF (newest FNHL owner)
2 on STL (2nd newest FNHL owner)
5 on FLA (Commissioner)
6 on TB  (Daddy)

Random avg calculation: 4.8666 players have the current 0.2m min salary per team.
If we increase to 0.6m in 2018-19, thatll cost 1.8m more on avg. Doubt that hurts anyone. Definitely not a competitive edge for anyone.

That reads like basic cap league math.
Cap ceiling goes up.
10m in 4yrs.
But Min. player salary stays flat at a low of 0.2m?
Let's fix this already and move on.

Here's my take an owner and someone who majored in economics many years ago (not that its worth anything really).

If raising the min salary doesn't hurt anyone or really force any tough choices, then why do it? This league has 31 teams. That is plenty of owners who cap and roster space to outbid a minimum contract. This league is competitive, our owners are competitive. The free market is what should set min contracts.

Who let Carolina sign Anders Bjork for 0.2m? I did...how foolish was I? And you did, and every other owner. It should be on league owners to not let anyone go for less than they are worth. With the creation of the supplemental draft, there should be even less minimum contracts out there. Most of those contracts go to guys who would be taken in a supp draft. Making the raise of the minimum contracts even less necessary.

The real issue here is extension prices. The cap goes up, real life player contracts are getting huge. but our extension prices aside from goalies have stayed level. Extension prices should force tough choices, more players should go to FA and be bid on in the free market.

 

[AntMan]

I like to see FAs get pulled onto rosters and booted out. This change hurts league activity... if it were easier to mirror the salary delta of the NHL for milr guys prior to call up and then the bump in pay to .6m when they make the NHL roster I would be for .6m

Bottom line imo league activity makes a league work. I believe this does diminish that for BO and roster fee hurt... so for that reason I'm out

[Brian]

Ok seeing mostly likely it pass will our payroll for each team go up to off set the amount its increase to

[izaman3]

Ok seeing mostly likely it pass will our payroll for each team go up to off set the amount its increase to

I have nothing against it passing. I just don't think it fixes anything and just is a change for change's sake. I also don't like that it was initially made a rule without a vote.

I'm glad it will change it the owner's approval.

[PigsRule]

Inflation.
Greedy fantasy players.
Overly wealthy but competitive FNHL owners.

All of the above have contributed to the increase in the league's minimum salary for skaters starting in 2018-19. All new minimum salaries signed for 2018-19 will reflect this and everyone with a $0.2m salary if not extended will be grandfathered as $0.2m.


NOTE: This decision has been undertaken after a lot of discussion with PR in the backroom with we keep the ice cold beer and other fun things to keep commissioners amused.

This is a small detail that helps with keeping the low end on par with the top end of our salary cap league.

There are generally no on-the-fly changes in FNHL. This would only take effect in 1 year.

Also, PPG broke down the impact cost, not significant enough to "hurt" any team.

I believe this is a reasonable update.

[blkhwkfn]

well again the Goalie increase wasn't voted on, at least to the best of my memory. which doesn't say much. It was a sort of necessary

[Jonathan]

I like to see FAs get pulled onto rosters and booted out. This change hurts league activity... if it were easier to mirror the salary delta of the NHL for milr guys prior to call up and then the bump in pay to .6m when they make the NHL roster I would be for .6m

Bottom line imo league activity makes a league work. I believe this does diminish that for BO and roster fee hurt... so for that reason I'm out

I don't believe this small bump affects someone willing to waste a roster spot on a speculative addition. For me, it was the extensions where teams were killing it. You can give a 2 year 1.4m contract, then bump them down to 0.2m the next year.  This year, things have been different, you aren't getting any talent at minimum to begin with.  I believe that shows how good the activity and competitiveness of the league as a whole is.

I am not sure how I will vote at this time, I will give it more thought before making that decision. On one hand, I like the old rule because its beneficially to people who like wasting roster spots. On the other hand, I know I can easily adjust and prepare for any minor cap changes. We do this every year.

[PigsRule]

Ok seeing mostly likely it pass will our payroll for each team go up to off set the amount its increase to

this is the countering move to catchup with growing cap ceiling. Min salary has never been touched since the league was created in 2010.

short ans, no.

[blkhwkfn]

this is the countering move to catchup with growing cap ceiling. Min salary has never been touched since the league was created in 2010.

short ans, no.

This is a non issue as I see it. Game On

[EndGame]

For what it's worth, here's my 2 cents as a relative new comer to this great league.

As PPG calculated, if on average only 5 players per team would be impacted by this minimum salary increase and the real cap cost is less than $2m it seems more than fair to allow the commissioners to go ahead as planned if it is to reflect the true low end of the salary spectrum.

Of course we can say if there's such a nominal impact then why make the change? Well, I don't run the league and I suppose we can have a free for all with no rules, but what fun would that be (tongue in cheek comment).

Also, someone mentioned the increase would hurt league activity. IMHO, this proposed change would do nothing to change my activity level or that of other owners as I've noticed many fantasy owners here are more than willing and ready to make moves regularly. It's what makes this league great and this change will be but an administrative change.

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