Something to Think About for Released Players

[Brewers GM]

So we should limit the players available for pick ups?  NO!  If you drop him that's the risk you take.  Don't stop other teams from making moves because you want to cut cap but dont want that player going away for peanuts.  Really, this is honestly a terrible proposal.  Lets not allow teams to bid on free agents...seriously?

Another conundrum if we instituted this proposal; why would a released Arod sit on the free agent market and not be picked up?

I don't think you're getting Roy's point - it's not that he wouldn't be picked up, it's that there is no cap in MLB and teams would pay him his full market value.  In our league, there is very little available cap space after the deadline so we would artificially drive down the salary.

There is no proposal on how to fix it, only a note that this could be a concern.  I'm not sure why you'd think that's a bad idea.

[rcankosy]

Then that is what happens... we can't control everything. If that is what a team chooses to do, then so be it. I could foresee Arod being dropped towards the end of his contract, regardless of who owns him. Andru Jones was once an elite player on a doody contract, and the he was released, and he was signed for a very reasonable amount. I realize it is apples and oranges, but there is only so much we can control and prepare for.

We can control it.  I propose that we do NOT allow teams to drops players making in excess of 15m DURING the season.  The question now is whether we WANT to control it.

[Corey]

We can control it.  I propose that we do NOT allow teams to drops players making in excess of 15m DURING the season.  The question now is whether we WANT to control it.

Thats rediculous. A team can drop any player at any time they want. Just like real life.

[rcankosy]

Thats rediculous. A team can drop any player at any time they want. Just like real life.

Teams in real life have no incentive to give outright releases to producing yet over-paid players, because they are on the hook for 100% of their salary.  That is not the case here.  Last year, I specifically released Michael Young who was making 16m per season AFTER the FA signing period ended to avoid this situation.

[Corey]

In this league there is a benefit to dropping the player after the trade deadline to avoid the cap hit. A team should be able to drop a guy whenever they sit fit, no matter who it is or how much they are making

[rcankosy]

In this league there is a benefit to dropping the player after the trade deadline to avoid the cap hit. A team should be able to drop a guy whenever they sit fit, no matter who it is or how much they are making

That is correct, but teams could cut their players after 8/21 and still reap the same cost savings.  After 8/21, FA has ended so we would not have to deal with this situation.  For the record, I am not singling you out.  I picked A-Rod, because he was the best example I could think of.  I did not mean to imply that you were going release him.

[Corey]

That is correct, but teams could cut their players after 8/21 and still reap the same cost savings.  After 8/21, FA has ended so we would not have to deal with this situation.  For the record, I am not singling you out.  I picked A-Rod, because he was the best example I could think of.  I did not mean to imply that you were going release him.

No hard feelings, I didnt feel singled out, I just feel that we should still have the ability to drop him anytime thats all.

[joeshmoe]

I don't think you're getting Roy's point - it's not that he wouldn't be picked up, it's that there is no cap in MLB and teams would pay him his full market value.  In our league, there is very little available cap space after the deadline so we would artificially drive down the salary.

There is no proposal on how to fix it, only a note that this could be a concern.  I'm not sure why you'd think that's a bad idea.

I get it very well.  But his solution is to stop teams from picking players up....that is ridiculous. 

Then that is what happens... we can't control everything. If that is what a team chooses to do, then so be it. I could foresee Arod being dropped towards the end of his contract, regardless of who owns him. Andru Jones was once an elite player on a doody contract, and the he was released, and he was signed for a very reasonable amount. I realize it is apples and oranges, but there is only so much we can control and prepare for.

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[rcankosy]

I get it very well.  But his solution is to stop teams from picking players up....that is ridiculous. 

Read my last proposal again.  I simply proposed that we limit the release of high-priced players.  Interested teams would then have the cap room to make a fair market bid in the off-season.  Teams could cut such players from 8/22 (FA has ended) to the start oif the regular season.  Is that really such an unfair restriction on rebuilding teams? 

[joeshmoe]

Read my last proposal again.  I simply proposed that we limit the release of high-priced players.  Interested teams would then have the cap room to make a fair market bid in the off-season.  Teams could cut such players from 8/22 (FA has ended) to the start oif the regular season.  Is that really such an unfair restriction on rebuilding teams?

Absolutely, it is.