Question RE Goalie Shortage: How do we play...

[PigsRule]

SITUTATION
9-teams currently dont have a starting goalie.

i count 5 Free Agent starting goalies up for bids... bryzgalov, crawford, anderson, vokoun, roloson... schneider isnt a starter when the season starts.

So what happens to the 4 teams that dont own a starter once the season starts... they will be short approx 350pts annually almost guaranteeing them a loss weekly.

PROBLEM
if managers cant acquire a goalie, and they are forced to lose those +350pts annually you'll potentially face a high turn over rate for managers fed up with the disparity since it takes anywhere from 1-5 yrs to wait for a goalie to mature and become an NHL starter + there are only 30 starting jobs in the NHL so a good prospect might never get a real shot to start in the foreseeable future.

FANTASY, NOT LIKE REALITY
i realize the league wants to mimic the NHL as much as possible but unlike the NHL, teams can decide to play a rookie goalie and start scoring points.

OPTIONS
have hockeyfreak6000 and Gilly already discussed this issue because it will lead to very uneven play.
has the league considered ...

• capping # of NHL goalies owned
• contract # of teams to create a larger pool of goalies available
• reduce value of goalie pts (scoring system revisions)
• etc.

[papps]

My suggestion is to go down to 1 starting goalie spot for each team.  Or we can lower the value of goalies.  In a full league its hard with two goalie spots to fill.  If our league was say 20 teams or so it would be easier to fill. 

[Fantasy Nightmares]

i like the rules as they are not sure why people wanna change things. u guys joined the league under the current rules why join then suggest they change.

[PigsRule]

for any team that owns a starting goalie (especially one from a perennial contender :afro:), the issue of a goalie shortage in a 30 team league using 2 goalies wouldnt be as relevant.

think about league play and keeping managers interested on teams missing a starting goalie...
as it stands, at least 4 teams will not own a starting G next wk leading those teams to suffer plenty of loses all season. not fun.

i would like this to work and enjoy salary cap leagues and discovering new ways to compete and win... but this league will experience higher than expected turnover if this gap in play isnt addressed.

consider this Fantasy Nightmares, Howard goes down Oct.7th... no one wants to trade you a goalie, even if they have 3-5, there is no one that can produce more than 50pts in a season left in the FA pool... then what, you start tuning out after mutliple failed attempts to acquire a starter.

[Gilly]

Okay,

If I hadn't picked up Backess who is amazing in the scoreing format we have and Brad Richards, I could have gotten a goalie....they combined almost get 300fp's....so I give up those two and pick up Quick who has 300 something himself......it still evens out....most of the teams with starting "expensive" goalies don't have star skaters to back it...theres one team with a goalie who got over 400 fps last year but the best two skaters maybe get 100 fps.....there will be no turn around....GM's knew goalies would be expensive....Gm's know how to balance their cap and achieve the team they desire...If there was a turn around than I am happy to see those Gm's go as this is a free competative league where if you didn't come to play and be competative than don't play at all...I find few and far between for teams that are solid in EVERY position!!

Mike

[PigsRule]

thx for the fedback gilly!

it will be interesting to see how our teams fair and how the season unfolds.

[Gilly]

Not a problem,

Just remember how the scoreing is done....David Backess > Brad Richards in this style of league......yeah goalies are a huge huge aspect, but you can still win the hole thing without a goalie, maybe not a smooth ride, but it can easily be done!!

[joeshmoe]

Not a problem,

Just remember how the scoreing is done....David Backess > Brad Richards in this style of league......yeah goalies are a huge huge aspect, but you can still win the hole thing without a goalie, maybe not a smooth ride, but it can easily be done!!

Certainly true, and especially so in a league where there are so many roster spots, and daily lineups; you can score big points with skaters, and defenders.

If you limit goalies you immediately have to go to weekly lineup's IMO, to prevent roster streaming; which starts all kinds of new problems with injuries and etc.

I could agree to a slight point reduction however, or a decrease to one roster spot.  The advantage of two goalies still exists but in a different capacity. 

[cheesesteak]

Cry me a river new guy. You are 25 mil under cap, if you want a goalie start spending it

Please keep everything civil folks!!
Gilly

[PigsRule]

i think i can cry u a puddle if you like that sorta thing bud... to each his own eh! :thumbsup: