Trade: COL/LAD

[Dan Wood]

And if you want to look at stats... Pedroia #8 FPG at MI, Zach #8 FPG at SP... stats can back up any argument, just depends on which ones you choose to look at.

[OUDAN]

The posting of a points disparity as an argument for why a trade is good might be good in theory, but it only works if you also account for the points lost by the players that must be taken out of the lineup in order for the owner to receive the benefit of having those new players on his club. Besides, we all know that there is more to a players value than just points, a favorable long-term contract for example.

And I never attacked your character I just made an observation based on the two deals and the subsequent arguments that followed. In my opinion, which I am allowed to have, there is a direct correlation between the two, not because of the deals themselves but the similarities in the circumstances surrounding them. I think if you are willing to apply your lens to one deal and not another because you are involved in one of them that is hypocritical. That is where my observation comes from. I have no axe to grind with anyone and I have no personal agenda at stake, I just want consistency in behavior.

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good to know im not the only one, seems kinda weird a lot of people think the TC isnt being consistent if it was just me it would be one thing but its more then just me

[h4cheng]

My entire argument against the Pedroia trade is that Greinke will never outscore Pedoria, and it creates a big hole in the lineup.
I expected scrutiny with this deal, I have no problem with the questions pertaining to the trade itself.

And if you want to look at stats... Pedroia #8 FPG at MI, Zach #8 FPG at SP... stats can back up any argument, just depends on which ones you choose to look at.

and an average MI outscores an avg Sp by a wide margin, what's your point?

And what should would you do in my situation? Not trade him? I offered him a very fair deal looking at the points. The Pedroia deal is no where to close to this. Getting rid of Burnett is just a small part of the deal (at least for me). I didn't realize until later that the salaries are out of wack (which I am willing to fix).

If you look at the chats, even Corey that COL will benefit in the in the short term. That's a hell lot better than the other deal.

[OUDAN]

the problem is u built that team and are attached to most of the guys, bottom line u should have no say so in a deal involving a team u just switched from and it should be that way with others if u switch teams your vote for anything involving them should be non exsistant for the first month or so.

but since u r prolly gettin tulo u r happy

[Dan Wood]

My point was any deal can be made to look good or bad depending on perspective. 28 and Kris also have a point, the Rox already have a full outfield - if he add Hart, who does he sit? Both his 3/4 OFs are doing better than Hart. So the trade comes down to adding Castro, is is pretty average in this league scoring format, and Marcum for Tulo. And adding cap, then having to pay Hart and Marcum after next year.

And yes trade with him all you want, but you should have made GD sure this trade was impeccable if you were going to call out another GM for not being forthcoming with the rules and offering a crap trade. This trade does not help the Rockies. He is giving a 20 ppg MI for an OF he doesn't need, a pitcher who is a bit above average, and an MI who scores 8 ppg. And paying to do so. Again, if Reid had looked at the scoring (as you thought he should have on his last deal), this is not as good of a trade as you may think it is.

[OUDAN]

This trade does not help the Rockies. He is giving a 20 ppg MI for an OF he doesn't need, a pitcher who is a bit above average, and an MI who scores 8 ppg. And paying to do so.

so in this case him giving peds and getting a top notch pitcher would be better for HIM he has no need for OF.

[Needle Juice]

Is the two week rule in place, as Ben asked?

[Dan Wood]

Is the two week rule in place, as Ben asked?

Not sure... it wasn't when LTD took over

[bravesfan4]

Since my opinion has been brought up, I do not think its fair. A new gm is being taken advantage of. Tulo almost equals the production of all 3.

[h4cheng]

had I not spoken up in the Pedoria deal, would this deal have gone through?

Seems like a lot of the chatter is about that..